From Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org Thu Jul 8 09:30:49 2010 From: Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org (Cinque Reeves) Date: Thu Jul 8 09:32:22 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo Message-ID: I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? From inov8tn at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 10:14:06 2010 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Thu Jul 8 10:14:22 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How much power? It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are air, fuel, and spark. You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT kit (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. If you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler that may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you just want 500 hp. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org Thu Jul 8 10:44:46 2010 From: Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org (Cinque Reeves) Date: Thu Jul 8 10:46:15 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the costs involved? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lawry Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo How much power? It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are air, fuel, and spark. You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT kit (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. If you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler that may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you just want 500 hp. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From inov8tn at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 12:39:04 2010 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Thu Jul 8 12:39:18 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 is a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable vane geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP 58 kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final tuning? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the costs > involved? > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > How much power? > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are air, > fuel, and spark. > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT kit > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. If > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler that > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > just want 500 hp. > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org Thu Jul 8 13:00:28 2010 From: Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org (Cinque Reeves) Date: Thu Jul 8 13:01:48 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I forgot to mention another key factor: This car is daily driven. Also, I'm coming up on 160k. On the question of power v. lag I think I come down on the no lag side. I replaced the original turbos with a pair from Japan and there's a dead spot around 3000 rpms. Very annoying. The guy that works on my car is a former shop manager at a Toyota dealership and has done a few conversions and does the tuning as well. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lawry Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:39 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 is a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable vane geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP 58 kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final tuning? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the costs > involved? > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > How much power? > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are air, > fuel, and spark. > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT kit > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. If > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler that > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > just want 500 hp. > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From inov8tn at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 13:19:05 2010 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Thu Jul 8 13:19:18 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Twins are there for good reason. What's the cause of the dead spot? Instrumentation should get you to the solution. My car is docile as a daily driver but it is an old car. I started all the work at 225K when my twins got tired. $29,000 later I have only 5K more on the car and intermittent errors between the cam and crank sensors so beware if you want to keep it up as a daily driver. What hp do you get now with the JP Twins and boost controller? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I forgot to mention another key factor: This car is daily driven. Also, > I'm coming up on 160k. On the question of power v. lag I think I come down > on the no lag side. I replaced the original turbos with a pair from Japan > and there's a dead spot around 3000 rpms. Very annoying. The guy that > works on my car is a former shop manager at a Toyota dealership and has done > a few conversions and does the tuning as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:39 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a > 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 > is > a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving > skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in > wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And > don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been > superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable > vane > geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP > 58 > kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final > tuning? > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the > costs > > involved? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > > Bill Lawry > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > > > How much power? > > > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are > air, > > fuel, and spark. > > > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT > kit > > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. > If > > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler > that > > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > > just want 500 hp. > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I > want > > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org Thu Jul 8 13:50:18 2010 From: Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org (Cinque Reeves) Date: Thu Jul 8 13:52:19 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure. I think the size of the turbos themselves is different from the US version. I've got a dyno app on my iPhone but I don't think it's accurate. I'm making about 19 psi with the boost cranked all the way up. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lawry Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:19 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo The Twins are there for good reason. What's the cause of the dead spot? Instrumentation should get you to the solution. My car is docile as a daily driver but it is an old car. I started all the work at 225K when my twins got tired. $29,000 later I have only 5K more on the car and intermittent errors between the cam and crank sensors so beware if you want to keep it up as a daily driver. What hp do you get now with the JP Twins and boost controller? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I forgot to mention another key factor: This car is daily driven. Also, > I'm coming up on 160k. On the question of power v. lag I think I come down > on the no lag side. I replaced the original turbos with a pair from Japan > and there's a dead spot around 3000 rpms. Very annoying. The guy that > works on my car is a former shop manager at a Toyota dealership and has done > a few conversions and does the tuning as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:39 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a > 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 > is > a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving > skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in > wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And > don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been > superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable > vane > geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP > 58 > kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final > tuning? > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the > costs > > involved? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > > Bill Lawry > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > > > How much power? > > > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are > air, > > fuel, and spark. > > > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT > kit > > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. > If > > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler > that > > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > > just want 500 hp. > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I > want > > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From bryant at cablelynx.com Fri Jul 9 00:35:29 2010 From: bryant at cablelynx.com (Larry M. Bryant) Date: Fri Jul 9 00:36:04 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002501cb1f28$8b4d1a30$6501a8c0@SupraComputer> I have a 57mm turbo on my '94 automatic. I actually road race it! It makes about 500 hp at the crank - about 420 rwhp. I also daily drive it. I wonder about your "dead spot". I know I did not consider the single turbo until my sequential system went south. I loved it when it worked, but hated it in true twin mode. I don't think there's any new magic regarding the tradeoff between hp and turbo lag. If hp goes up, lag usually does as well. I don't drag race, but I guess you could spray to overcome the lag. Good luck, Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Cinque Reeves Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:00 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: RE: [mkiv] Single turbo I forgot to mention another key factor: This car is daily driven. Also, I'm coming up on 160k. On the question of power v. lag I think I come down on the no lag side. I replaced the original turbos with a pair from Japan and there's a dead spot around 3000 rpms. Very annoying. The guy that works on my car is a former shop manager at a Toyota dealership and has done a few conversions and does the tuning as well. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lawry Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:39 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 is a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable vane geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP 58 kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final tuning? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the costs > involved? > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > How much power? > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are air, > fuel, and spark. > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT kit > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. If > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler that > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > just want 500 hp. > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From johnacribb at yahoo.com Fri Jul 9 04:12:35 2010 From: johnacribb at yahoo.com (John Cribb) Date: Fri Jul 9 04:13:41 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: <002501cb1f28$8b4d1a30$6501a8c0@SupraComputer> References: <002501cb1f28$8b4d1a30$6501a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: You could also consider a cast manifold (ie Toyomoto?) in lieu of the header types like the BoostLogic, HKS, etc. There's much less volume in the cast manifold before the exhaust hits the turbine. Less exhaust volume should equal faster response. John '97 RSP 6spd Hardtop, APU '94 Blk/Blk, BPU On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > I have a 57mm turbo on my '94 automatic. I actually road race it! > It makes about 500 hp at the crank - about 420 rwhp. I also daily drive > it. > I wonder about your "dead spot". I know I did not consider the single > turbo > until my sequential system went south. I loved it when it worked, but > hated > it in true twin mode. > I don't think there's any new magic regarding the tradeoff between hp and > turbo lag. If hp goes up, lag usually does as well. I don't drag race, > but > I guess you could spray to overcome the lag. > > Good luck, > > Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Cinque Reeves > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:00 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Single turbo > > > I forgot to mention another key factor: This car is daily driven. Also, > I'm > coming up on 160k. On the question of power v. lag I think I come down on > the no lag side. I replaced the original turbos with a pair from Japan and > there's a dead spot around 3000 rpms. Very annoying. The guy that works > on my car is a former shop manager at a Toyota dealership and has done a > few > conversions and does the tuning as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill > Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:39 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a > 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 > is > a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving > skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in > wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And > don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been > superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable > vane > geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP > 58 > kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final > tuning? > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the > costs > > involved? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > > Bill Lawry > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > > > How much power? > > > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are > air, > > fuel, and spark. > > > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT > kit > > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. > If > > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler > that > > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > > just want 500 hp. > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I > want > > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > From Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org Fri Jul 9 10:38:34 2010 From: Cinque.Reeves at woodruffcenter.org (Cinque Reeves) Date: Fri Jul 9 10:40:18 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Single turbo In-Reply-To: <002501cb1f28$8b4d1a30$6501a8c0@SupraComputer> References: <002501cb1f28$8b4d1a30$6501a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Larry M. Bryant Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:35 AM To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Single turbo I have a 57mm turbo on my '94 automatic. I actually road race it! It makes about 500 hp at the crank - about 420 rwhp. I also daily drive it. I wonder about your "dead spot". I know I did not consider the single turbo until my sequential system went south. I loved it when it worked, but hated it in true twin mode. I don't think there's any new magic regarding the tradeoff between hp and turbo lag. If hp goes up, lag usually does as well. I don't drag race, but I guess you could spray to overcome the lag. Good luck, Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Cinque Reeves Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:00 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: RE: [mkiv] Single turbo I forgot to mention another key factor: This car is daily driven. Also, I'm coming up on 160k. On the question of power v. lag I think I come down on the no lag side. I replaced the original turbos with a pair from Japan and there's a dead spot around 3000 rpms. Very annoying. The guy that works on my car is a former shop manager at a Toyota dealership and has done a few conversions and does the tuning as well. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lawry Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:39 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo Seems that you already have most of what you need if you are content with a 500 rwhp limit. If you are not experienced in a high performance car 500 is a good place to stop developing hardware and start developing your driving skills. If you want acceleration and cost is a factor you'll want to add in wider rear tires, the wheels to mount them and space to hold them. And don't forget that new Kevlar? clutch. The SP 58 has probably been superceeded so ask around. If you can find a small turbo with variable vane geometry you might want to investigate that. I paid $4200 List for my ESP 58 kit in '07. Will you be doing this work yourself? How about the final tuning? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Cinque Reeves < Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > I already have a profec B boost controller and Blitz BOV installed. And > I've got most of the turbo kit already. FMIC, wastegate, manifold, and > another BOV. The horsepower question really gets to the heart of want I > wanted to ask. I'm much more interested in acceleration and 1/4 mile > performance than say top speed. Also, can you relate any idea of the costs > involved? > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Lawry > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:14 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Single turbo > > How much power? > > It's all about managing heat. The major tools of heat management are air, > fuel, and spark. > > You should be able to get almost 500 rwhp from a Sound Performance 58GT kit > (call them and chat). You'll probably need a heavier duty clutch too. If > you want more hp then you'll need to beef up the fuel system (bigger > injectors, etc). I overbuilt my system and included a big intercooler that > may have been overkill and an AEM EMS that was definately overkill if you > just want 500 hp. > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cinque Reeves < > Cinque.Reeves@woodruffcenter.org> wrote: > > > I'm looking to go to a single turbo setup on my 94' 6-speed TT. I want > > big power but don't want the lag. Any suggestions? > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From andi at airmail.net Fri Jul 9 20:03:25 2010 From: andi at airmail.net (Andi Baritchi) Date: Fri Jul 9 20:03:58 2010 Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra Message-ID: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ From inov8tn at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 20:29:06 2010 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Fri Jul 9 20:29:28 2010 Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra In-Reply-To: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> References: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> Message-ID: Thanks Andi! Guess we should hang on to our relics. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Andi Baritchi wrote: > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From montegobay1 at comcast.net Sat Jul 10 15:49:42 2010 From: montegobay1 at comcast.net (Erven) Date: Sat Jul 10 15:50:23 2010 Subject: [mkiv] (no subject) Message-ID: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> Has anyone seen this battery tender or have any comment on it, I am buying one. http://www.saveabattery.com/ From suprastud97 at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 17:38:52 2010 From: suprastud97 at gmail.com (Dean Bates) Date: Sat Jul 10 17:39:25 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra Message-ID: What does he mean a new Supra? We already have a new Supra; it's called the Lexus LFA. The three performance records that the MKIV Supra held were the slalom, the skidpad, and Nurburgring lap time, which are the exact same titles that the LFA holds right now. A new Supra would have to be the world's fastest circuit car as was the MKIV; building a Supra like that would result in self-competition with the LFA, and building a Supra that is slower than the LFA would be a disgrace to the Supra name. The LFA is the new Supra. Dean On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Mkiv mailing list submissions to > mkiv@mkiv.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mkiv-request@mkiv.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mkiv-owner@mkiv.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mkiv digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Andi Baritchi) > 2. Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Bill Lawry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:25 -0500 > From: Andi Baritchi > Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:29:06 -0400 > From: Bill Lawry > Subject: Re: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks Andi! > > Guess we should hang on to our relics. > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Andi Baritchi wrote: > > > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > End of Mkiv Digest, Vol 87, Issue 3 > *********************************** > From xpaznboymkivxp at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 17:43:10 2010 From: xpaznboymkivxp at yahoo.com (Dat Vo) Date: Sat Jul 10 17:43:55 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <931871.61784.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> You mean building a supra thats people can afford. Dat ________________________________ From: Dean Bates To: mkiv@mkiv.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 6:38:52 PM Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra What does he mean a new Supra? We already have a new Supra; it's called the Lexus LFA. The three performance records that the MKIV Supra held were the slalom, the skidpad, and Nurburgring lap time, which are the exact same titles that the LFA holds right now. A new Supra would have to be the world's fastest circuit car as was the MKIV; building a Supra like that would result in self-competition with the LFA, and building a Supra that is slower than the LFA would be a disgrace to the Supra name. The LFA is the new Supra. Dean On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Mkiv mailing list submissions to > mkiv@mkiv.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mkiv-request@mkiv.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mkiv-owner@mkiv.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mkiv digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Andi Baritchi) > 2. Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Bill Lawry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:25 -0500 > From: Andi Baritchi > Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ >/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:29:06 -0400 > From: Bill Lawry > Subject: Re: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks Andi! > > Guess we should hang on to our relics. > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Andi Baritchi wrote: > > > > > >http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ >/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > End of Mkiv Digest, Vol 87, Issue 3 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From grokfu at hotmail.com Sat Jul 10 17:54:28 2010 From: grokfu at hotmail.com (CW) Date: Sat Jul 10 17:54:55 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I suppose that since the CEO of Toyota doesn't define the LF-A as the Supra that you shouldn't either. Food for thought. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: Dean Bates Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 3:38 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra What does he mean a new Supra? We already have a new Supra; it's called the Lexus LFA. The three performance records that the MKIV Supra held were the slalom, the skidpad, and Nurburgring lap time, which are the exact same titles that the LFA holds right now. A new Supra would have to be the world's fastest circuit car as was the MKIV; building a Supra like that would result in self-competition with the LFA, and building a Supra that is slower than the LFA would be a disgrace to the Supra name. The LFA is the new Supra. Dean On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Mkiv mailing list submissions to > mkiv@mkiv.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mkiv-request@mkiv.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mkiv-owner@mkiv.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mkiv digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Andi Baritchi) > 2. Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Bill Lawry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:25 -0500 > From: Andi Baritchi > Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:29:06 -0400 > From: Bill Lawry > Subject: Re: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks Andi! > > Guess we should hang on to our relics. > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Andi Baritchi wrote: > > > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > End of Mkiv Digest, Vol 87, Issue 3 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From inov8tn at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 20:02:26 2010 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Sat Jul 10 20:02:57 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: After viewing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsXsdNgov0 I want one! http://www.lexus.com/models/allModels/#/fperformance/ Has the price - Wow! - More than 10 X what I paid for my MKIV. I'm soooo glad I have my MKIV even if I am 100 hp short of the LFA. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Dean Bates wrote: > What does he mean a new Supra? We already have a new Supra; it's called > the > Lexus LFA. The three performance records that the MKIV Supra held were the > slalom, the skidpad, and Nurburgring lap time, which are the exact same > titles that the LFA holds right now. A new Supra would have to be the > world's fastest circuit car as was the MKIV; building a Supra like that > would result in self-competition with the LFA, and building a Supra that is > slower than the LFA would be a disgrace to the Supra name. The LFA is the > new Supra. > > Dean > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > > > Send Mkiv mailing list submissions to > > mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > mkiv-request@mkiv.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > mkiv-owner@mkiv.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Mkiv digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Andi Baritchi) > > 2. Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Bill Lawry) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:25 -0500 > > From: Andi Baritchi > > Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > Message-ID: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:29:06 -0400 > > From: Bill Lawry > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Thanks Andi! > > > > Guess we should hang on to our relics. > > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Andi Baritchi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > End of Mkiv Digest, Vol 87, Issue 3 > > *********************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From toysport at iinet.net.au Sat Jul 10 22:07:43 2010 From: toysport at iinet.net.au (Toysport) Date: Sat Jul 10 22:08:01 2010 Subject: [mkiv] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> References: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> Message-ID: <000301cb20a6$3ac48a10$b04d9e30$@iinet.net.au> That looks like a good unit with lots of functions. I use a simple automatic charger that kicks in when the voltage drops so the battery maintains charge when the car is not being used and it cost under $40 US. John -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Erven Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 4:50 AM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] (no subject) Has anyone seen this battery tender or have any comment on it, I am buying one. http://www.saveabattery.com/ _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From rwfs68 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 11 11:06:07 2010 From: rwfs68 at yahoo.com (rw fields) Date: Sun Jul 11 11:06:50 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <384169.9282.qm@web57906.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Any relation to the ?Bates from south Ga" Doublin area think ________________________________ From: Dean Bates To: mkiv@mkiv.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 6:38:52 PM Subject: [mkiv] Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra What does he mean a new Supra?? We already have a new Supra; it's called the Lexus LFA.? The three performance records that the MKIV Supra held were the slalom, the skidpad, and Nurburgring lap time, which are the exact same titles that the LFA holds right now.? A new Supra would have to be the world's fastest circuit car as was the MKIV; building a Supra like that would result in self-competition with the LFA, and building a Supra that is slower than the LFA would be a disgrace to the Supra name.? The LFA is the new Supra. Dean On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Mkiv mailing list submissions to >? ? ? ? mkiv@mkiv.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >? ? ? ? http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >? ? ? ? mkiv-request@mkiv.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at >? ? ? ? mkiv-owner@mkiv.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mkiv digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >? 1. akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Andi Baritchi) >? 2. Re: akio toyoda reminisces about the supra (Bill Lawry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:25 -0500 > From: Andi Baritchi > Subject: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: <4C37C6DD.7030107@airmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ >/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:29:06 -0400 > From: Bill Lawry > Subject: Re: [mkiv] akio toyoda reminisces about the supra > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Message-ID: >? ? ? ? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks Andi! > > Guess we should hang on to our relics. > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Andi Baritchi wrote: > > > > > >http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/09/akio-toyoda-would-love-to-do-a-new-supra-probably-wont-happen/ >/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > End of Mkiv Digest, Vol 87, Issue 3 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From mike555 at ameritech.net Sun Jul 11 21:12:03 2010 From: mike555 at ameritech.net (M Johnson) Date: Sun Jul 11 21:12:34 2010 Subject: [mkiv] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> References: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> Message-ID: <9FD8B16D-CE10-486D-B38B-FD641393C33A@ameritech.net> I have been wanting to get a trickle charger for a while now... I just ordered one of the All-In-One charger/maint/tester units. Looks like a great alternative to a plain trickle charger. MJ On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Erven wrote: > Has anyone seen this battery tender or have any comment on it, I am > buying one. > > http://www.saveabattery.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From jza80-alfvza at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 11 21:54:41 2010 From: jza80-alfvza at sbcglobal.net (lance) Date: Sun Jul 11 21:55:00 2010 Subject: [mkiv] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> References: <110579F718EC410580DC483F5E34A8CA@ErvenPC> Message-ID: <0F61BC9F717245BFB808FD88E7A302B7@Wolrab.local> The only ones I know to work for sure are made by http://www.pulsetech.net/ Lance '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Erven Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:50 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] (no subject) Has anyone seen this battery tender or have any comment on it, I am buying one. http://www.saveabattery.com/ _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv