From cheemahammad at yahoo.com Mon Jun 21 23:59:05 2010 From: cheemahammad at yahoo.com (M. Cheema) Date: Mon Jun 21 23:59:25 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> Message-ID: <980200.39621.qm@web58003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello Guys, ? I have a problem with my transmission on my mkiv. I actually?drove the car to the mechanic to get one of the transmission lines replaced. After the line was replaced the car did not go in gear and now it seems like the tranny went out. I bought another tranny ( $269) thinking it would be cheap enough for me to just another one and the problem would be solved but now the mechanic is saying i need to get a torque converter. That is like 900 bucks. I looked on the MKIV website where they tell you how to check to see if the Torque converter is good or not but the tool (SST) is something i dont know where to get, i called another local transmission shop to ask them to check it and they said they would but they would have to cut it open????? I'm kindda stuck in a limbo...... what should i do? can i get a Torque converter from somewhere besides the dealer for a cheaper price or can this one be rebuilt????? any suggestion would be appreciated. ? From cheemahammad at yahoo.com Tue Jun 22 00:07:45 2010 From: cheemahammad at yahoo.com (M. Cheema) Date: Tue Jun 22 00:08:19 2010 Subject: [mkiv] TORQUE CONVERTER........ Message-ID: <438675.37496.qm@web58007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Lexus-Supra-Performance-Torque-Converter-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2ea03096b2QQitemZ200256034482QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories ? ? I found one on EBAY..... should i get this??? ? Thanks alot in advance. ? Mo From bobgash at comcast.net Tue Jun 22 19:20:18 2010 From: bobgash at comcast.net (Bob Gash) Date: Tue Jun 22 19:21:05 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> In-Reply-To: <980200.39621.qm@web58003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <980200.39621.qm@web58003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101cb1269$dc53da20$94fb8e60$@net> Mo, Sorry, I'm no real expert, but your posts do raise a number of questions: You say you took your car to a dealer to have a trans line replaced - what was wrong with the line that caused a need for replacement? What reason did the dealer give you on why a line replacement would cause your trans to not go into gear? Also, did they add/change fluid, and if they did, what fluid did they use? >From whom/where did you by a MKIV trans for 269.00 - that's suspect in itself...? What leads your mechanic to believe your torque converter is bad? Our converters are fairly bullet-proof if properly cared-for... A number of inconsistencies - you need to help us out and give us more to work with. BobG -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of M. Cheema Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:59 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> I found one on EBAY..... should i get this??? Thanks alot in advance. Mo Hello Guys, ? I have a problem with my transmission on my mkiv. I actually?drove the car to the mechanic to get one of the transmission lines replaced. After the line was replaced the car did not go in gear and now it seems like the tranny went out. I bought another tranny ( $269) thinking it would be cheap enough for me to just another one and the problem would be solved but now the mechanic is saying i need to get a torque converter. That is like 900 bucks. I looked on the MKIV website where they tell you how to check to see if the Torque converter is good or not but the tool (SST) is something i dont know where to get, i called another local transmission shop to ask them to check it and they said they would but they would have to cut it open????? I'm kindda stuck in a limbo...... what should i do? can i get a Torque converter from somewhere besides the dealer for a cheaper price or can this one be rebuilt????? any suggestion would be appreciated. ? _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From johnacribb at yahoo.com Tue Jun 22 20:06:58 2010 From: johnacribb at yahoo.com (John Cribb) Date: Tue Jun 22 20:07:38 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Carputer, Interior & Sound Deadening Message-ID: <003901cb1270$61749ae0$245dd0a0$@com> Just finished some upgrades to the '97, consisting of a full interior strip, then a professional sound deadening insulation installation was done (with Cascade Audio material, Erven), then the seats were recovered, headliner redone, a new set of BA speakers installed, batteries relocated, and finally the carputer. I did a full writeup on it over at Lextreme, where I hang out these days: http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7200 The operation of the carputer is just awesome, especially with the Centrafuse front end; it really makes everything so easy and intuitive. Getting it ready for the supercharged Lexus V8, which should be ready "real soon now" ;-) John '97 RSP 6spd Hardtop APU '94 Blk/Blk A/T BPU From p.kaiser77 at gmail.com Wed Jun 23 02:30:44 2010 From: p.kaiser77 at gmail.com (Patrick Kaiser) Date: Wed Jun 23 02:31:24 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Carputer, Interior & Sound Deadening In-Reply-To: <003901cb1270$61749ae0$245dd0a0$@com> References: <003901cb1270$61749ae0$245dd0a0$@com> Message-ID: <4A33C78674094A4495323912F8A2D3F9@JZA80> Hey John, nice project you got there. Has your car gained a lot of weight because of the insulation? How did they insulate the trunk hatch? The guys at my shop say its a horrible construction and very difficult to insulate. They dont know if they can do it properly. I'm also in the process of a Car PC installation and some refurbishment of the interior. I will also use Centrafuse. :) I'll post some pictures once its done. Patrick 94TT 6spd ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cribb" To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:06 AM Subject: [mkiv] Carputer, Interior & Sound Deadening > Just finished some upgrades to the '97, consisting of a full interior > strip, > then a professional sound deadening insulation installation was done (with > Cascade Audio material, Erven), then the seats were recovered, headliner > redone, a new set of BA speakers installed, batteries relocated, and > finally > the carputer. > > > > I did a full writeup on it over at Lextreme, where I hang out these days: > http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7200 > > > > The operation of the carputer is just awesome, especially with the > Centrafuse front end; it really makes everything so easy and intuitive. > > > > Getting it ready for the supercharged Lexus V8, which should be ready > "real > soon now" ;-) > > > > John > > '97 RSP 6spd Hardtop APU > > '94 Blk/Blk A/T BPU > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From garybechtold at gmail.com Wed Jun 23 23:54:01 2010 From: garybechtold at gmail.com (Gary Bechtold) Date: Wed Jun 23 23:54:24 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Message-ID: <4C22E4E9.3020807@gmail.com> Sad day for those who love Toyota Performance Cars. Responsible for cars from the 2000GT to the Supra to the current LFA. He will be missed. http://jalopnik.com/5570971/breaking-two-toyota-test-drivers-killed-in-german-crash Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Toyota's top test driver, Hiromu Naruse, died today after crashing a Lexus LFA prototype into a BMW while testing in Germany. The two test drivers in the BMW were also seriously injured. Naruse helped not only to test, but also to develop, the Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition he was driving in addition to a slew of other sports cars ? including the 2000GT ? since he started working for Toyota in 1963. -Gary R. Bechtold, Jr. 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo From bryant at cablelynx.com Thu Jun 24 22:28:37 2010 From: bryant at cablelynx.com (Larry M. Bryant) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:28:58 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash In-Reply-To: <4C22E4E9.3020807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Wow - what a legacy! 2000GT to the LFA! What I don't see in the picture or video are skid marks? Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Gary Bechtold Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:54 PM To: MKIV Supra List Subject: [mkiv] Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Sad day for those who love Toyota Performance Cars. Responsible for cars from the 2000GT to the Supra to the current LFA. He will be missed. http://jalopnik.com/5570971/breaking-two-toyota-test-drivers-killed-in-germa n-crash Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Toyota's top test driver, Hiromu Naruse, died today after crashing a Lexus LFA prototype into a BMW while testing in Germany. The two test drivers in the BMW were also seriously injured. Naruse helped not only to test, but also to develop, the Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition he was driving in addition to a slew of other sports cars - including the 2000GT - since he started working for Toyota in 1963. -Gary R. Bechtold, Jr. 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From bryant at cablelynx.com Thu Jun 24 22:50:21 2010 From: bryant at cablelynx.com (Larry M. Bryant) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:50:53 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? In-Reply-To: <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <001401cb1419$89688f20$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> The other day my car threw the drive belt - didn't break. Turns out, the crankshaft pulley seems to be missing a part? It's as smooth as a baby's behind, and I assume it should have the grooved/flanged look of the other pulleys - right? (now it looks like the tensioner) Is that a separate piece (it is now!) that I can install? Not being much of a wrencher, I never really noticed before. Any help is appreciated. Larry '94 single From johnacribb at yahoo.com Fri Jun 25 07:15:01 2010 From: johnacribb at yahoo.com (John Cribb) Date: Fri Jun 25 07:15:34 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Carputer, Interior & Sound Deadening In-Reply-To: <4A33C78674094A4495323912F8A2D3F9@JZA80> References: <003901cb1270$61749ae0$245dd0a0$@com> <4A33C78674094A4495323912F8A2D3F9@JZA80> Message-ID: <000c01cb1460$0963c320$1c2b4960$@com> Patrick, thanks for your comments. The guesstimate is that 140-150 lbs of sound deadening were added, but I'm going to put the car on a set of truck scales soon to see just how much we've gained. The hatch was pretty tough for the installer, and honestly, I didn't notice that much was gained from it. Where the big gains came from were the floorboards, doors, roof, and wheel wells. I noticed this because we did the installation in three phases and road tested the car after each phase. Throughout the install, my guy was in contact with the owners of Cascade, who had done Mashdaddy's (Dave Mashour) Supra years ago as a demonstration unit, and they were giving him guidance & suggestions all along the way. One of the things that works against the Supra is all the plastic trim and other hard surfaces, especially in the rear and hatch area. If this trim could be covered with something softer, we'd probably see a big difference. When we replaced the stock headliner plastic cover with 1/4" of sound foam, then covered that with perforated suede, I detected a big difference. Of course my headliner in a hardtop is much larger and probably benefited more than the guys' with sport roofs. Since the installation, I've taken a Lexus and a BMW owner for rides, and they feel the car is quieter than an M3, and an IS, and nearly as quiet as an LS400. It's now quiet enough to have a normal conversation with a passenger @ 60-70 MPH, which I'd never been able to do before due to the road noise from the tires, and I've actually increased the size/section of tires over what I had before. (315/30 now, and 285/35 before) I look forward to hearing more about your installation. What sort of system unit are you putting in? The dual core Atom that I have is "just" snappy enough; I wish it had the speed/power of a quadcore Pentium, of course, but power = heat = noisy fans, so I suppose the Atom is an acceptable compromise. John '97 RSP 6spd hardtop, APU -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Kaiser Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:31 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Carputer, Interior & Sound Deadening Hey John, nice project you got there. Has your car gained a lot of weight because of the insulation? How did they insulate the trunk hatch? The guys at my shop say its a horrible construction and very difficult to insulate. They dont know if they can do it properly. I'm also in the process of a Car PC installation and some refurbishment of the interior. I will also use Centrafuse. :) I'll post some pictures once its done. Patrick 94TT 6spd ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cribb" To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:06 AM Subject: [mkiv] Carputer, Interior & Sound Deadening > Just finished some upgrades to the '97, consisting of a full interior > strip, > then a professional sound deadening insulation installation was done (with > Cascade Audio material, Erven), then the seats were recovered, headliner > redone, a new set of BA speakers installed, batteries relocated, and > finally > the carputer. > > > > I did a full writeup on it over at Lextreme, where I hang out these days: > http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7200 > > > > The operation of the carputer is just awesome, especially with the > Centrafuse front end; it really makes everything so easy and intuitive. > > > > Getting it ready for the supercharged Lexus V8, which should be ready > "real > soon now" ;-) > > > > John > > '97 RSP 6spd Hardtop APU > > '94 Blk/Blk A/T BPU > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From dengel1012 at gmail.com Fri Jun 25 10:18:49 2010 From: dengel1012 at gmail.com (David Engel) Date: Fri Jun 25 10:19:08 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? In-Reply-To: <001401cb1419$89688f20$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> References: <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <001401cb1419$89688f20$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: Here are some pictures for reference: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/pulley/index.html I don't think there is a piece sold separately. If it happened on my car, I'd get an upgraded one from BL: http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=79&cat=15&page=1 (I hear this is out of stock a lot) or ATI: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918562/ Thread about the ATI damper: http://www.mkivforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4779 David On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > The other day my car threw the drive belt - didn't break. Turns out, the > crankshaft pulley seems to be missing a part? It's as smooth as a baby's > behind, and I assume it should have the grooved/flanged look of the other > pulleys - right? (now it looks like the tensioner) > Is that a separate piece (it is now!) that I can install? Not being much > of > a wrencher, I never really noticed before. > Any help is appreciated. > > Larry > '94 single > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From johnacribb at yahoo.com Fri Jun 25 10:54:12 2010 From: johnacribb at yahoo.com (John Cribb) Date: Fri Jun 25 10:54:40 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? In-Reply-To: References: <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <001401cb1419$89688f20$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <001d01cb147e$a87a6720$f96f3560$@com> I think we'll be seeing more of these incidents as our cars age. Most owners don't give dampners a 2nd thought about needing replacement, but they do, and if/when the pulley separates from the main body it can sure make a mess. John '97 RSP 6spd hardtop, APU -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of David Engel Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:19 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? Here are some pictures for reference: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/pulley/index.html I don't think there is a piece sold separately. If it happened on my car, I'd get an upgraded one from BL: http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=79&cat=15&page=1 (I hear this is out of stock a lot) or ATI: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918562/ Thread about the ATI damper: http://www.mkivforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4779 David On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > The other day my car threw the drive belt - didn't break. Turns out, the > crankshaft pulley seems to be missing a part? It's as smooth as a baby's > behind, and I assume it should have the grooved/flanged look of the other > pulleys - right? (now it looks like the tensioner) > Is that a separate piece (it is now!) that I can install? Not being much > of > a wrencher, I never really noticed before. > Any help is appreciated. > > Larry > '94 single > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From cheemahammad at yahoo.com Fri Jun 25 12:47:57 2010 From: cheemahammad at yahoo.com (M. Cheema) Date: Fri Jun 25 12:48:12 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> In-Reply-To: <002101cb1269$dc53da20$94fb8e60$@net> Message-ID: <912413.85286.qm@web58002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thanks for reply Bob, ? I apologize for delayed response, I think my mail is throwing some of Mkiv mail into spam and some in the in box. Anyways, that a separate issue.? OK, My car... ? I have a JDM engine swap done. transmission was leaking from one of the transmission lines. I took it to a local mechanic shop ( bad idea) the guys dont know anything about the supra's or anything else for that matter..... Once the line was replaced, the car would not go into gear.?He filled it up with the fluid (Toyota Dext IV) made sure he used the right one.......after trying for a lil while the car went into gear and the mechanic drove around the block and brought it back and shifted from drive to park and that was the last time the car would move on its own. ? I got the transmission from miami pretty cheap (jdm) but it doesnt have a torque converter. The torque converter that came off with my transmission is no good??? that what the mechanic is saying..... i looked at the MKIV manual and in there they have?listed a way to check it but you need an SST tool (which i dont have) the mechanic said that the torque converter was burning oil hence it is bad....I donno ....sigh...... ? Now i am looking to get a new torque converter, which has different prices ranging from $400- 1200. with variable speed 2800rpm to 3200 rpm stall speed. I dont know what?those mean and have no clue as to which one to get. ? Didnt take the car to the Toyota dealer cuz they DONT have a freaking clue as to what to do with my car.....Very frustrating..... ? Anyhelp is appreciated. ? Mohammad? --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bob Gash wrote: From: Bob Gash Subject: RE: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:20 PM Mo, Sorry, I'm no real expert, but your posts do raise a number of questions:? You say you took your car to a dealer to have a trans line replaced - what was wrong with the line that caused a need for replacement? What reason did the dealer give you on why a line replacement would cause your trans to not go into gear?? Also, did they add/change fluid, and if they did, what fluid did they use? >From whom/where did you by a MKIV trans for 269.00 - that's suspect in itself...? What leads your mechanic to believe your torque converter is bad?? Our converters are fairly bullet-proof if properly cared-for... A number of inconsistencies - you need to help us out and give us more to work with. BobG -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of M. Cheema Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:59 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> I found one on EBAY..... should i get this??? Thanks alot in advance. Mo Hello Guys, ? I have a problem with my transmission on my mkiv. I actually?drove the car to the mechanic to get one of the transmission lines replaced. After the line was replaced the car did not go in gear and now it seems like the tranny went out. I bought another tranny ( $269) thinking it would be cheap enough for me to just another one and the problem would be solved but now the mechanic is saying i need to get a torque converter. That is like 900 bucks. I looked on the MKIV website where they tell you how to check to see if the Torque converter is good or not but the tool (SST) is something i dont know where to get, i called another local transmission shop to ask them to check it and they said they would but they would have to cut it open????? I'm kindda stuck in a limbo...... what should i do? can i get a Torque converter from somewhere besides the dealer for a cheaper price or can this one be rebuilt????? any suggestion would be appreciated. ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From maguirre at imowitz.com Fri Jun 25 14:50:57 2010 From: maguirre at imowitz.com (Marcelo Aguirre) Date: Fri Jun 25 14:51:14 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? In-Reply-To: <001d01cb147e$a87a6720$f96f3560$@com> References: <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <001401cb1419$89688f20$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <001d01cb147e$a87a6720$f96f3560$@com> Message-ID: <27B19571FCBE4345A64447BDFE76FCEA01594C7157BC@ikex01.ikdom.com> I plan on replacing mine with the ATI damper. I just haven't had the time to do it. Marcelo 97TT, 6spd -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of John Cribb Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:54 AM To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? I think we'll be seeing more of these incidents as our cars age. Most owners don't give dampners a 2nd thought about needing replacement, but they do, and if/when the pulley separates from the main body it can sure make a mess. John '97 RSP 6spd hardtop, APU -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of David Engel Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:19 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? Here are some pictures for reference: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/pulley/index.html I don't think there is a piece sold separately. If it happened on my car, I'd get an upgraded one from BL: http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=79&cat=15&page=1 (I hear this is out of stock a lot) or ATI: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918562/ Thread about the ATI damper: http://www.mkivforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4779 David On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > The other day my car threw the drive belt - didn't break. Turns out, the > crankshaft pulley seems to be missing a part? It's as smooth as a baby's > behind, and I assume it should have the grooved/flanged look of the other > pulleys - right? (now it looks like the tensioner) > Is that a separate piece (it is now!) that I can install? Not being much > of > a wrencher, I never really noticed before. > Any help is appreciated. > > Larry > '94 single > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _________________________________________________ Scanned on 25 Jun 2010 16:19:19 Scanned by Erado Under applicable U.S. Treasury Regulations we are required to inform you that any advice contained in this e-mail message or any attachment hereto is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. This email and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this email and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this email and any attachments. From bobgash at comcast.net Fri Jun 25 20:08:15 2010 From: bobgash at comcast.net (Bob Gash) Date: Fri Jun 25 20:08:49 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> In-Reply-To: <912413.85286.qm@web58002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <002101cb1269$dc53da20$94fb8e60$@net> <912413.85286.qm@web58002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601cb14cc$0f536a80$2dfa3f80$@net> Mo, You have a number of potential issues - tough to figure out without someone who knows their stuff taking a look at the car. The fluid they used "might" be an issue - Toyota Type IV is correct, but it's definitely not a "Dexron"/Dext(?) fluid. As to the stall speed, I'd suggest a Google search - IMO, if you do actually need to replace your converter, keep the stall speed low with a stock setup. Bottom line: I'd look for a knowledgeable Supra owner in your area, and ask for advice and/or a shop that has good/verifiable Supra experience. BobG. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of M. Cheema Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:48 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: RE: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> Thanks for reply Bob, ? I apologize for delayed response, I think my mail is throwing some of Mkiv mail into spam and some in the in box. Anyways, that a separate issue.? OK, My car... ? I have a JDM engine swap done. transmission was leaking from one of the transmission lines. I took it to a local mechanic shop ( bad idea) the guys dont know anything about the supra's or anything else for that matter..... Once the line was replaced, the car would not go into gear.?He filled it up with the fluid (Toyota Dext IV) made sure he used the right one.......after trying for a lil while the car went into gear and the mechanic drove around the block and brought it back and shifted from drive to park and that was the last time the car would move on its own. ? I got the transmission from miami pretty cheap (jdm) but it doesnt have a torque converter. The torque converter that came off with my transmission is no good??? that what the mechanic is saying..... i looked at the MKIV manual and in there they have?listed a way to check it but you need an SST tool (which i dont have) the mechanic said that the torque converter was burning oil hence it is bad....I donno ....sigh...... ? Now i am looking to get a new torque converter, which has different prices ranging from $400- 1200. with variable speed 2800rpm to 3200 rpm stall speed. I dont know what?those mean and have no clue as to which one to get. ? Didnt take the car to the Toyota dealer cuz they DONT have a freaking clue as to what to do with my car.....Very frustrating..... ? Anyhelp is appreciated. ? Mohammad? --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bob Gash wrote: From: Bob Gash Subject: RE: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:20 PM Mo, Sorry, I'm no real expert, but your posts do raise a number of questions:? You say you took your car to a dealer to have a trans line replaced - what was wrong with the line that caused a need for replacement? What reason did the dealer give you on why a line replacement would cause your trans to not go into gear?? Also, did they add/change fluid, and if they did, what fluid did they use? >From whom/where did you by a MKIV trans for 269.00 - that's suspect in itself...? What leads your mechanic to believe your torque converter is bad?? Our converters are fairly bullet-proof if properly cared-for... A number of inconsistencies - you need to help us out and give us more to work with. BobG -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of M. Cheema Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:59 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> I found one on EBAY..... should i get this??? Thanks alot in advance. Mo Hello Guys, ? I have a problem with my transmission on my mkiv. I actually?drove the car to the mechanic to get one of the transmission lines replaced. After the line was replaced the car did not go in gear and now it seems like the tranny went out. I bought another tranny ( $269) thinking it would be cheap enough for me to just another one and the problem would be solved but now the mechanic is saying i need to get a torque converter. That is like 900 bucks. I looked on the MKIV website where they tell you how to check to see if the Torque converter is good or not but the tool (SST) is something i dont know where to get, i called another local transmission shop to ask them to check it and they said they would but they would have to cut it open????? I'm kindda stuck in a limbo...... what should i do? can i get a Torque converter from somewhere besides the dealer for a cheaper price or can this one be rebuilt????? any suggestion would be appreciated. ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From bryant at cablelynx.com Fri Jun 25 21:55:13 2010 From: bryant at cablelynx.com (Larry M. Bryant) Date: Fri Jun 25 21:55:52 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007501cb14db$0077b6b0$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Thanks for all the info. BoostLogic is selling the ATI now. Now to decide which is the better choice. Any advice on the install? Is it much trouble to get to? I don't have access to a lift, so I either have to work from above or on a ramp/jackstand. Thanks, Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of David Engel Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:19 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? Here are some pictures for reference: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/pulley/index.html I don't think there is a piece sold separately. If it happened on my car, I'd get an upgraded one from BL: http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=79&cat=15&page=1 (I hear this is out of stock a lot) or ATI: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918562/ Thread about the ATI damper: http://www.mkivforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4779 David On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > The other day my car threw the drive belt - didn't break. Turns out, the > crankshaft pulley seems to be missing a part? It's as smooth as a baby's > behind, and I assume it should have the grooved/flanged look of the other > pulleys - right? (now it looks like the tensioner) > Is that a separate piece (it is now!) that I can install? Not being much > of > a wrencher, I never really noticed before. > Any help is appreciated. > > Larry > '94 single > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From bryant at cablelynx.com Fri Jun 25 21:56:36 2010 From: bryant at cablelynx.com (Larry M. Bryant) Date: Fri Jun 25 21:56:51 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? In-Reply-To: <001d01cb147e$a87a6720$f96f3560$@com> Message-ID: <007601cb14db$31853d40$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> I guess I fall into the category about not giving it a second thought. And also in the category of being lucky it did not make a mess! Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of John Cribb Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:54 AM To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? I think we'll be seeing more of these incidents as our cars age. Most owners don't give dampners a 2nd thought about needing replacement, but they do, and if/when the pulley separates from the main body it can sure make a mess. John '97 RSP 6spd hardtop, APU -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of David Engel Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:19 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crankshaft pulley? Here are some pictures for reference: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/pulley/index.html I don't think there is a piece sold separately. If it happened on my car, I'd get an upgraded one from BL: http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=79&cat=15&page=1 (I hear this is out of stock a lot) or ATI: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918562/ Thread about the ATI damper: http://www.mkivforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4779 David On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > The other day my car threw the drive belt - didn't break. Turns out, the > crankshaft pulley seems to be missing a part? It's as smooth as a baby's > behind, and I assume it should have the grooved/flanged look of the other > pulleys - right? (now it looks like the tensioner) > Is that a separate piece (it is now!) that I can install? Not being much > of > a wrencher, I never really noticed before. > Any help is appreciated. > > Larry > '94 single > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From cheemahammad at yahoo.com Sat Jun 26 19:59:01 2010 From: cheemahammad at yahoo.com (M. Cheema) Date: Sat Jun 26 19:59:47 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> In-Reply-To: <000601cb14cc$0f536a80$2dfa3f80$@net> Message-ID: <37738.33391.qm@web58002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> thanks bob --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Bob Gash wrote: From: Bob Gash Subject: RE: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 8:08 PM Mo, You have a number of potential issues - tough to figure out without someone who knows their stuff taking a look at the car. The fluid they used "might" be an issue - Toyota Type IV is correct, but it's definitely not a "Dexron"/Dext(?) fluid.? As to the stall speed, I'd suggest a Google search - IMO, if you do actually need to replace your converter, keep the stall speed low with a stock setup. Bottom line: I'd look for a knowledgeable Supra owner in your area, and ask for advice and/or a shop that has good/verifiable Supra experience. BobG. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of M. Cheema Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:48 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: RE: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> Thanks for reply Bob, ? I apologize for delayed response, I think my mail is throwing some of Mkiv mail into spam and some in the in box. Anyways, that a separate issue.? OK, My car... ? I have a JDM engine swap done. transmission was leaking from one of the transmission lines. I took it to a local mechanic shop ( bad idea) the guys dont know anything about the supra's or anything else for that matter..... Once the line was replaced, the car would not go into gear.?He filled it up with the fluid (Toyota Dext IV) made sure he used the right one.......after trying for a lil while the car went into gear and the mechanic drove around the block and brought it back and shifted from drive to park and that was the last time the car would move on its own. ? I got the transmission from miami pretty cheap (jdm) but it doesnt have a torque converter. The torque converter that came off with my transmission is no good??? that what the mechanic is saying..... i looked at the MKIV manual and in there they have?listed a way to check it but you need an SST tool (which i dont have) the mechanic said that the torque converter was burning oil hence it is bad....I donno ....sigh...... ? Now i am looking to get a new torque converter, which has different prices ranging from $400- 1200. with variable speed 2800rpm to 3200 rpm stall speed. I dont know what?those mean and have no clue as to which one to get. ? Didnt take the car to the Toyota dealer cuz they DONT have a freaking clue as to what to do with my car.....Very frustrating..... ? Anyhelp is appreciated. ? Mohammad? --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bob Gash wrote: From: Bob Gash Subject: RE: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:20 PM Mo, Sorry, I'm no real expert, but your posts do raise a number of questions:? You say you took your car to a dealer to have a trans line replaced - what was wrong with the line that caused a need for replacement? What reason did the dealer give you on why a line replacement would cause your trans to not go into gear?? Also, did they add/change fluid, and if they did, what fluid did they use? >From whom/where did you by a MKIV trans for 269.00 - that's suspect in itself...? What leads your mechanic to believe your torque converter is bad?? Our converters are fairly bullet-proof if properly cared-for... A number of inconsistencies - you need to help us out and give us more to work with. BobG -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of M. Cheema Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:59 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: [mkiv] Torque Converter and transmission problem......NEED HELP>>> I found one on EBAY..... should i get this??? Thanks alot in advance. Mo Hello Guys, ? I have a problem with my transmission on my mkiv. I actually?drove the car to the mechanic to get one of the transmission lines replaced. After the line was replaced the car did not go in gear and now it seems like the tranny went out. I bought another tranny ( $269) thinking it would be cheap enough for me to just another one and the problem would be solved but now the mechanic is saying i need to get a torque converter. That is like 900 bucks. I looked on the MKIV website where they tell you how to check to see if the Torque converter is good or not but the tool (SST) is something i dont know where to get, i called another local transmission shop to ask them to check it and they said they would but they would have to cut it open????? I'm kindda stuck in a limbo...... what should i do? can i get a Torque converter from somewhere besides the dealer for a cheaper price or can this one be rebuilt????? any suggestion would be appreciated. ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From mfahie at dsl.pipex.com Sun Jun 27 06:35:13 2010 From: mfahie at dsl.pipex.com (Martin F) Date: Sun Jun 27 06:35:28 2010 Subject: [mkiv] Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash In-Reply-To: <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> References: <4C22E4E9.3020807@gmail.com> <001301cb1416$809cd930$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <000001cb15ec$cebdc700$6c395500$@pipex.com> It's a very odd looking accident to result in fatalities. Hopefully more details will be known as time goes on. What a sad loss :( Martin UK6TT + bits www.mkivsupraownersclub.com -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Larry M. Bryant Sent: 25 June 2010 04:29 To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Wow - what a legacy! 2000GT to the LFA! What I don't see in the picture or video are skid marks? Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Gary Bechtold Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:54 PM To: MKIV Supra List Subject: [mkiv] Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Sad day for those who love Toyota Performance Cars. Responsible for cars from the 2000GT to the Supra to the current LFA. He will be missed. http://jalopnik.com/5570971/breaking-two-toyota-test-drivers-killed-in-germa n-crash Lead Toyota Test Driver Killed In German Crash Toyota's top test driver, Hiromu Naruse, died today after crashing a Lexus LFA prototype into a BMW while testing in Germany. The two test drivers in the BMW were also seriously injured. Naruse helped not only to test, but also to develop, the Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition he was driving in addition to a slew of other sports cars - including the 2000GT - since he started working for Toyota in 1963. -Gary R. Bechtold, Jr. 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv