From mouseworks at mouseworks.com.au Tue Dec 15 23:49:44 2009 From: mouseworks at mouseworks.com.au (Glen Elliott) Date: Tue Dec 15 23:53:12 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise In-Reply-To: <9E08B9238407BE4BB3758776E3C48F5630E147A5A6@ICE-MBX-1.ice.nd.edu> References: <200912111800.nBBI03vA006407@mkiv.com> <9E08B9238407BE4BB3758776E3C48F5630E147A5A6@ICE-MBX-1.ice.nd.edu> Message-ID: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0746@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> Hi folks I had the Supra in to have a clutch place replaced - finally had enough of the Kevlar on/off switch - and both engine mounts were found to be broken. Not sure how yet but 2 new ones are going in on the weekend and I hope that fixes it. >From following forums and the mailing lists, I haven't come across any noise issues with broken mounts except the knock if you go in reverse, turning at the same time. Mine is just quiet below 15mph or so. I cannot rock the engine either and it doesn't move about when you hit the throttle. I will post the results - perhaps it is the missing "front wheel drive" that's playing up? :-) Cheers Glen -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Wishon Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2009 2:49 AM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise I think he found it -- it was the mud flaps... Gordon >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:48 -0500 >From: Bill Lawry >Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >Message-ID: > <715b3dd70912110920w5fc38b92p9e07bd75af852600@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Of course - That's why all 4 tires get wear and we align all 4 wheels. >N'est pas? ;D > >Did that odd front end noise ever get recorded & posted? > >Merry Christmas! >Armatissimi e liberissimi. > >On 12/11/09, Erven wrote: >> Lance, All these years I just found out my supra is a 4wd,I was shock. :() > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lance" > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:30 AM > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > >>I might have to look again under there. This one and mine are both hard >> tops... ;) >> >> Lance >> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> Ted >> Volkman >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> >> I thought all supras were 4wd. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7a8GBT4Xk >> >> Lance, you must have one of those rare base model 2wd versions :) >> >> -- >> ted >> 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed >> 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem >> 93t mr2 gen3 3sgte, t3/t4, 264s, aem >> 88sc mr2 >> 98 honda vfr800 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, lance >> wrote: >>> No doubt. The world's only 4wd Supra. Do you even know what this list is >>> about? >>> >>> Lance >>> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >>> rw >>> fields >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:25 PM >>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> If its a 4 wheel dr, might be u joint or axel joint. >>> I've seen dry speedometer cables act this way, but usually neddle >> pulsates. >>> also dust or mud flaps could be it. >>> look for slick spots or stripes on tire caused by something rubbing it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Glen Elliott >>> To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" >>> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:37:44 AM >>> Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> Hi folks >>> >>> I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front rotors, >>> pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been now >>> the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an >>> undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration >>> through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like >>> something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or >>> hitting the throttle cable... >>> >>> The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right >>> hand >>> sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, it >>> goes away for a bit then comes back. >>> >>> Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about over >>> bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to lock. >>> Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the >>> front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it is >>> definitely not that. >>> >>> This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly >>> off... >>> >>> Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are >>> not >>> really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Glen >>> Belgrave, Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > - _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From cheemahammad at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 14:28:53 2009 From: cheemahammad at yahoo.com (M. Cheema) Date: Sat Dec 19 14:29:11 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. Message-ID: <434885.36077.qm@web58104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does anyone have any idea as to what i can do? ? Thanks. Hammad 93 JDM 400hp 93TT 93N/A From mouseworks at mouseworks.com.au Sat Dec 19 17:17:30 2009 From: mouseworks at mouseworks.com.au (Glen Elliott) Date: Sat Dec 19 17:20:59 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise In-Reply-To: <003901ca7b5a$cdc6ee80$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> References: <994102.15347.qm@web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <003901ca7b5a$cdc6ee80$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0750@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> Folks, I have had the engine mounts replaced with new ones and the noise is still there, even if the vibration through the throttle pedal has eased off a bit. The noise is a deep "whump, whump whump" like something thumping up and down in front of the firewall. It is way slower than any engine noise and slower than a tyre noise. Pushing the clutch in has no effect, nor does leaving it in neutral - the noise is still there but it diminishes as the car slows down. I would have thought some major tyre balance problem was causing the noise - like an out of round tyre - but the tyres are new and they were balanced. Rims are fine also. Could a tailshaft, tailshaft centre uni joint or bad wheel bearing/hub cause this? I have replaced a rear left hub - the "road shoulder" side that gets all the wear over here and before I did that, a got a bearing whine noise which I don't have now. I cannot detect any movement in any of the hubs or wheel bearings. Has anyone noticed any noises associated with steering rack mounts, tailshaft or suspension cradle to body mounts? The car still drives nice and straight but the ride has always been a bit harsh - factory springs and KYB adjustable shocks. Also, swapped out the Kevlar clutch plate and went back to a new stock one a week ago. No problem with gear box mount... Also changed cam belt, drive belt and tensioner. Any help much appreciated. Thanks Glen -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Larry M. Bryant Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2009 5:42 AM To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise Now this is a post I can believe............. I highly recommend NOT offering "advice" about anything that you don't even know is a car. Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of rw fields Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:57 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> Ted >> Volkman >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> >> I thought all supras were 4wd. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A supras IS, NEITHER ?DOES THE NET, SOUNDED LIKE A MOTER VEHICLE SO I OFFERED A SUGGESTION. ? ________________________________ From: Gordon Wishon To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:48:47 AM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise I think he found it -- it was the mud flaps... Gordon >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:48 -0500 >From: Bill Lawry >Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >Message-ID: >??? <715b3dd70912110920w5fc38b92p9e07bd75af852600@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Of course - That's why all 4 tires get wear and we align all 4 wheels. >N'est pas? ;D > >Did that odd front end noise ever get recorded & posted? > >Merry Christmas! >Armatissimi? e? liberissimi. > >On 12/11/09, Erven wrote: >> Lance, All these years I just found out my supra is a 4wd,I was shock. :() > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lance" > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:30 AM > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > >>I might have to look again under there.? This one and mine are both hard >> tops... ;) >> >> Lance >> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> Ted >> Volkman >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> >> I thought all supras were 4wd. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7a8GBT4Xk >> >> Lance, you must have one of those rare base model 2wd versions :) >> >> -- >> ted >> 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed >> 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem >> 93t mr2 gen3 3sgte, t3/t4, 264s, aem >> 88sc mr2 >> 98 honda vfr800 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, lance >> wrote: >>> No doubt. The world's only 4wd Supra. Do you even know what this list is >>> about? >>> >>> Lance >>> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >>> rw >>> fields >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:25 PM >>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> If its a 4 wheel dr, might be u joint or axel joint. >>> I've seen dry speedometer cables act this way, but usually neddle >> pulsates. >>> also dust or mud flaps could be it. >>> look for slick spots or stripes on tire caused by something rubbing it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Glen Elliott >>> To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" >>> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:37:44 AM >>> Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> Hi folks >>> >>> I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front rotors, >>> pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been now >>> the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an >>> undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration >>> through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like >>> something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or >>> hitting the throttle cable... >>> >>> The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right >>> hand >>> sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, it >>> goes away for a bit then comes back. >>> >>> Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about over >>> bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to lock. >>> Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the >>> front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it is >>> definitely not that. >>> >>> This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly >>> off... >>> >>> Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are >>> not >>> really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Glen >>> Belgrave, Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > - _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From freestylebmxriding at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 17:29:19 2009 From: freestylebmxriding at yahoo.com (Ryan welch) Date: Sat Dec 19 17:29:37 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. In-Reply-To: <434885.36077.qm@web58104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <637718.17442.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Get a long breaker bar and make sure you know what direction the motor turns then lift the car a little off the ground and turn the key to start it, the force breaks free the bolt. Be careful, you DO NOT want to start it up, just bump it over. --- On Sat, 12/19/09, M. Cheema wrote: From: M. Cheema Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. To: mkiv@mkiv.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:28 PM Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does anyone have any idea as to what i can do? ? Thanks. Hammad 93 JDM 400hp 93TT 93N/A _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From johnacribb at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 17:43:29 2009 From: johnacribb at yahoo.com (John Cribb) Date: Sat Dec 19 17:43:55 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise In-Reply-To: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0750@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> References: <994102.15347.qm@web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com><003901ca7b5a$cdc6ee80$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0750@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> Message-ID: <8102AF40928342EB8D1B80ADE7B63C2E@cel022> Could it be something as simple as your undercover beating against the frame, etc. and causing the noise? Are any of the other symptoms still there from your original post, or did most disappear after the mounts were replaced? What about putting it on a Dynojet to see if you can reproduce the problem with only the rear wheels spinning? That might help isolate it. John '97 RSP 6spd APU hardtop -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Glen Elliott Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:18 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise Folks, I have had the engine mounts replaced with new ones and the noise is still there, even if the vibration through the throttle pedal has eased off a bit. The noise is a deep "whump, whump whump" like something thumping up and down in front of the firewall. It is way slower than any engine noise and slower than a tyre noise. Pushing the clutch in has no effect, nor does leaving it in neutral - the noise is still there but it diminishes as the car slows down. I would have thought some major tyre balance problem was causing the noise - like an out of round tyre - but the tyres are new and they were balanced. Rims are fine also. Could a tailshaft, tailshaft centre uni joint or bad wheel bearing/hub cause this? I have replaced a rear left hub - the "road shoulder" side that gets all the wear over here and before I did that, a got a bearing whine noise which I don't have now. I cannot detect any movement in any of the hubs or wheel bearings. Has anyone noticed any noises associated with steering rack mounts, tailshaft or suspension cradle to body mounts? The car still drives nice and straight but the ride has always been a bit harsh - factory springs and KYB adjustable shocks. Also, swapped out the Kevlar clutch plate and went back to a new stock one a week ago. No problem with gear box mount... Also changed cam belt, drive belt and tensioner. Any help much appreciated. Thanks Glen -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Larry M. Bryant Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2009 5:42 AM To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise Now this is a post I can believe............. I highly recommend NOT offering "advice" about anything that you don't even know is a car. Larry -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of rw fields Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:57 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> Ted >> Volkman >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> >> I thought all supras were 4wd. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A supras IS, NEITHER ?DOES THE NET, SOUNDED LIKE A MOTER VEHICLE SO I OFFERED A SUGGESTION. ? ________________________________ From: Gordon Wishon To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:48:47 AM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise I think he found it -- it was the mud flaps... Gordon >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:48 -0500 >From: Bill Lawry >Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >Message-ID: >??? <715b3dd70912110920w5fc38b92p9e07bd75af852600@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Of course - That's why all 4 tires get wear and we align all 4 wheels. >N'est pas? ;D > >Did that odd front end noise ever get recorded & posted? > >Merry Christmas! >Armatissimi? e? liberissimi. > >On 12/11/09, Erven wrote: >> Lance, All these years I just found out my supra is a 4wd,I was shock. :() > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lance" > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:30 AM > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > >>I might have to look again under there.? This one and mine are both hard >> tops... ;) >> >> Lance >> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> Ted >> Volkman >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> >> I thought all supras were 4wd. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7a8GBT4Xk >> >> Lance, you must have one of those rare base model 2wd versions :) >> >> -- >> ted >> 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed >> 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem >> 93t mr2 gen3 3sgte, t3/t4, 264s, aem >> 88sc mr2 >> 98 honda vfr800 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, lance >> wrote: >>> No doubt. The world's only 4wd Supra. Do you even know what this list is >>> about? >>> >>> Lance >>> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >>> rw >>> fields >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:25 PM >>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> If its a 4 wheel dr, might be u joint or axel joint. >>> I've seen dry speedometer cables act this way, but usually neddle >> pulsates. >>> also dust or mud flaps could be it. >>> look for slick spots or stripes on tire caused by something rubbing it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Glen Elliott >>> To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" >>> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:37:44 AM >>> Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> Hi folks >>> >>> I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front rotors, >>> pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been now >>> the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an >>> undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration >>> through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like >>> something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or >>> hitting the throttle cable... >>> >>> The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right >>> hand >>> sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, it >>> goes away for a bit then comes back. >>> >>> Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about over >>> bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to lock. >>> Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the >>> front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it is >>> definitely not that. >>> >>> This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly >>> off... >>> >>> Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are >>> not >>> really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Glen >>> Belgrave, Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > - _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From dengel1012 at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 17:45:59 2009 From: dengel1012 at gmail.com (David Engel) Date: Sat Dec 19 17:46:07 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise In-Reply-To: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0750@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> References: <994102.15347.qm@web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <003901ca7b5a$cdc6ee80$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0750@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> Message-ID: Just an thought, but is your under engine cover completely secure? David On 12/19/09, Glen Elliott wrote: > Folks, I have had the engine mounts replaced with new ones and the noise is > still there, even if the vibration through the throttle pedal has eased off > a bit. The noise is a deep "whump, whump whump" like something thumping up > and down in front of the firewall. It is way slower than any engine noise > and slower than a tyre noise. > > Pushing the clutch in has no effect, nor does leaving it in neutral - the > noise is still there but it diminishes as the car slows down. I would have > thought some major tyre balance problem was causing the noise - like an out > of round tyre - but the tyres are new and they were balanced. Rims are fine > also. > > Could a tailshaft, tailshaft centre uni joint or bad wheel bearing/hub cause > this? I have replaced a rear left hub - the "road shoulder" side that gets > all the wear over here and before I did that, a got a bearing whine noise > which I don't have now. I cannot detect any movement in any of the hubs or > wheel bearings. > > Has anyone noticed any noises associated with steering rack mounts, > tailshaft or suspension cradle to body mounts? > > The car still drives nice and straight but the ride has always been a bit > harsh - factory springs and KYB adjustable shocks. Also, swapped out the > Kevlar clutch plate and went back to a new stock one a week ago. No problem > with gear box mount... > > Also changed cam belt, drive belt and tensioner. > > Any help much appreciated. > > Thanks > > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Larry M. Bryant > Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2009 5:42 AM > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > Now this is a post I can believe............. > I highly recommend NOT offering "advice" about anything that you don't even > know is a car. > > Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of rw > fields > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:57 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > >>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >>> Ted >>> Volkman >>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> I thought all supras were 4wd. > I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A supras IS, NEITHER ?DOES THE NET, SOUNDED LIKE A MOTER > VEHICLE SO I OFFERED A SUGGESTION. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gordon Wishon > To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" > Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:48:47 AM > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > I think he found it -- it was the mud flaps... > > > Gordon > >>Message: 6 >>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:48 -0500 >>From: Bill Lawry >>Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>Message-ID: >>??? <715b3dd70912110920w5fc38b92p9e07bd75af852600@mail.gmail.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >>Of course - That's why all 4 tires get wear and we align all 4 wheels. >>N'est pas? ;D >> >>Did that odd front end noise ever get recorded & posted? >> >>Merry Christmas! >>Armatissimi? e? liberissimi. >> >>On 12/11/09, Erven wrote: >>> Lance, All these years I just found out my supra is a 4wd,I was shock. > :() >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "lance" >> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:30 AM >> Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >> >> >>>I might have to look again under there.? This one and mine are both hard >>> tops... ;) >>> >>> Lance >>> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >>> Ted >>> Volkman >>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM >>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>> >>> I thought all supras were 4wd. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7a8GBT4Xk >>> >>> Lance, you must have one of those rare base model 2wd versions :) >>> >>> -- >>> ted >>> 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed >>> 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem >>> 93t mr2 gen3 3sgte, t3/t4, 264s, aem >>> 88sc mr2 >>> 98 honda vfr800 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, lance >>> wrote: >>>> No doubt. The world's only 4wd Supra. Do you even know what this list is >>>> about? >>>> >>>> Lance >>>> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >>>> rw >>>> fields >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:25 PM >>>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>>> >>>> If its a 4 wheel dr, might be u joint or axel joint. >>>> I've seen dry speedometer cables act this way, but usually neddle >>> pulsates. >>>> also dust or mud flaps could be it. >>>> look for slick spots or stripes on tire caused by something rubbing it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Glen Elliott >>>> To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" >>>> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:37:44 AM >>>> Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise >>>> >>>> Hi folks >>>> >>>> I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front rotors, >>>> pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been > now >>>> the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an >>>> undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration >>>> through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like >>>> something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or >>>> hitting the throttle cable... >>>> >>>> The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right >>>> hand >>>> sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, it >>>> goes away for a bit then comes back. >>>> >>>> Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about > over >>>> bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to lock. >>>> Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the >>>> front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it is >>>> definitely not that. >>>> >>>> This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly >>>> off... >>>> >>>> Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are >>>> not >>>> really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Glen >>>> Belgrave, Australia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mkiv mailing list >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mkiv mailing list >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mkiv mailing list >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > - > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > -- Sent from my mobile device From RogerM at marteq.com Sat Dec 19 17:53:17 2009 From: RogerM at marteq.com (Roger Marquez) Date: Sat Dec 19 17:58:58 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. In-Reply-To: <637718.17442.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <434885.36077.qm@web58104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <637718.17442.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <452F412EFC9517488115C0AD453FD88801B25CB3F6B8@marteq07.marteq.com> Or http://www.etooldirect.com/manufacturer/schley-products/schley-64300-lexus-toyota-harmonic-damper-holding-tool.html Worth every penny IMO. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Ryan welch Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:29 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. Get a long breaker bar and make sure you know what direction the motor turns then lift the car a little off the ground and turn the key to start it, the force breaks free the bolt. Be careful, you DO NOT want to start it up, just bump it over. --- On Sat, 12/19/09, M. Cheema wrote: From: M. Cheema Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. To: mkiv@mkiv.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:28 PM Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does anyone have any idea as to what i can do? Thanks. Hammad 93 JDM 400hp 93TT 93N/A _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From inov8tn at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 23:27:58 2009 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Sat Dec 19 23:28:14 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise In-Reply-To: <8102AF40928342EB8D1B80ADE7B63C2E@cel022> References: <994102.15347.qm@web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <003901ca7b5a$cdc6ee80$6401a8c0@SupraComputer> <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A8D0FD0750@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> <8102AF40928342EB8D1B80ADE7B63C2E@cel022> Message-ID: <715b3dd70912192127g65c07567y1cc2497b2562bcf6@mail.gmail.com> Under the category of 'anything is possible': I had a wierd noise that was caused (fortunately at idle) by vacuum collapsing the little 'S' hose that ges between the two cam covers. It shreiked at idle until I wrapped a support around it. You might want to check your hoses and think through the possibilities of one or more contrbuting to your noise. On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, John Cribb wrote: > Could it be something as simple as your undercover beating against the > frame, etc. and causing the noise? > > Are any of the other symptoms still there from your original post, or did > most disappear after the mounts were replaced? > > What about putting it on a Dynojet to see if you can reproduce the problem > with only the rear wheels spinning? That might help isolate it. > > John > '97 RSP 6spd APU hardtop > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Glen > Elliott > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:18 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > Folks, I have had the engine mounts replaced with new ones and the noise is > still there, even if the vibration through the throttle pedal has eased off > a bit. The noise is a deep "whump, whump whump" like something thumping up > and down in front of the firewall. It is way slower than any engine noise > and slower than a tyre noise. > > Pushing the clutch in has no effect, nor does leaving it in neutral - the > noise is still there but it diminishes as the car slows down. I would have > thought some major tyre balance problem was causing the noise - like an out > of round tyre - but the tyres are new and they were balanced. Rims are fine > also. > > Could a tailshaft, tailshaft centre uni joint or bad wheel bearing/hub > cause > this? I have replaced a rear left hub - the "road shoulder" side that gets > all the wear over here and before I did that, a got a bearing whine noise > which I don't have now. I cannot detect any movement in any of the hubs or > wheel bearings. > > Has anyone noticed any noises associated with steering rack mounts, > tailshaft or suspension cradle to body mounts? > > The car still drives nice and straight but the ride has always been a bit > harsh - factory springs and KYB adjustable shocks. Also, swapped out the > Kevlar clutch plate and went back to a new stock one a week ago. No problem > with gear box mount... > > Also changed cam belt, drive belt and tensioner. > > Any help much appreciated. > > Thanks > > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Larry M. Bryant > Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2009 5:42 AM > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > Now this is a post I can believe............. > I highly recommend NOT offering "advice" about anything that you don't even > know is a car. > > Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of rw > fields > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:57 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > > >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > >> Ted > >> Volkman > >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM > >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > >> > >> I thought all supras were 4wd. > I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A supras IS, NEITHER DOES THE NET, SOUNDED LIKE A > MOTER > VEHICLE SO I OFFERED A SUGGESTION. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gordon Wishon > To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" > Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:48:47 AM > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > I think he found it -- it was the mud flaps... > > > Gordon > > >Message: 6 > >Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:48 -0500 > >From: Bill Lawry > >Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > >To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >Message-ID: > > <715b3dd70912110920w5fc38b92p9e07bd75af852600@mail.gmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > >Of course - That's why all 4 tires get wear and we align all 4 wheels. > >N'est pas? ;D > > > >Did that odd front end noise ever get recorded & posted? > > > >Merry Christmas! > >Armatissimi e liberissimi. > > > >On 12/11/09, Erven wrote: > >> Lance, All these years I just found out my supra is a 4wd,I was shock. > :() > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lance" > > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:30 AM > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > > > > > >>I might have to look again under there. This one and mine are both hard > >> tops... ;) > >> > >> Lance > >> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > >> Ted > >> Volkman > >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:23 AM > >> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List; lance > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > >> > >> I thought all supras were 4wd. > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7a8GBT4Xk > >> > >> Lance, you must have one of those rare base model 2wd versions :) > >> > >> -- > >> ted > >> 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed > >> 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem > >> 93t mr2 gen3 3sgte, t3/t4, 264s, aem > >> 88sc mr2 > >> 98 honda vfr800 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, lance > >> wrote: > >>> No doubt. The world's only 4wd Supra. Do you even know what this list > is > >>> about? > >>> > >>> Lance > >>> '93 TT 6 Speed Coupe > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf > Of > >>> rw > >>> fields > >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:25 PM > >>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > >>> > >>> If its a 4 wheel dr, might be u joint or axel joint. > >>> I've seen dry speedometer cables act this way, but usually neddle > >> pulsates. > >>> also dust or mud flaps could be it. > >>> look for slick spots or stripes on tire caused by something rubbing it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Glen Elliott > >>> To: "mkiv@mkiv.com" > >>> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:37:44 AM > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise > >>> > >>> Hi folks > >>> > >>> I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front > rotors, > >>> pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been > now > >>> the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an > >>> undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration > >>> through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like > >>> something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or > >>> hitting the throttle cable... > >>> > >>> The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right > >>> hand > >>> sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, > it > >>> goes away for a bit then comes back. > >>> > >>> Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about > over > >>> bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to > lock. > >>> Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the > >>> front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it > is > >>> definitely not that. > >>> > >>> This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly > >>> off... > >>> > >>> Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are > >>> not > >>> really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Glen > >>> Belgrave, Australia > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > - > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From inov8tn at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 23:33:02 2009 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Sat Dec 19 23:33:13 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. In-Reply-To: <452F412EFC9517488115C0AD453FD88801B25CB3F6B8@marteq07.marteq.com> References: <434885.36077.qm@web58104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <637718.17442.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <452F412EFC9517488115C0AD453FD88801B25CB3F6B8@marteq07.marteq.com> Message-ID: <715b3dd70912192133r1f3970acm40f81205fa8a739c@mail.gmail.com> OK. I'l bite. How does this give you an advantage over the 'bump' method? Bill 93 6spd single T, FMIC, AEM On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Roger Marquez wrote: > Or > > > http://www.etooldirect.com/manufacturer/schley-products/schley-64300-lexus-toyota-harmonic-damper-holding-tool.html > > Worth every penny IMO. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Ryan welch > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:29 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > > Get a long breaker bar and make sure you know what direction the motor > turns then lift the car a little off the ground and turn the key to start > it, the force breaks free the bolt. Be careful, you DO NOT want to start it > up, just bump it over. > > --- On Sat, 12/19/09, M. Cheema wrote: > > > From: M. Cheema > Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:28 PM > > > Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does > anyone have any idea as to what i can do? > > Thanks. > Hammad > 93 JDM 400hp > 93TT > 93N/A > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From RogerM at marteq.com Sun Dec 20 03:36:08 2009 From: RogerM at marteq.com (Roger Marquez) Date: Sun Dec 20 03:41:40 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. In-Reply-To: <715b3dd70912192133r1f3970acm40f81205fa8a739c@mail.gmail.com> References: <434885.36077.qm@web58104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <637718.17442.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <452F412EFC9517488115C0AD453FD88801B25CB3F6B8@marteq07.marteq.com> <715b3dd70912192133r1f3970acm40f81205fa8a739c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452F412EFC9517488115C0AD453FD88801B25CB3F6B9@marteq07.marteq.com> Your way works I just don't like doing that to my starter/flywheel teeth. The tool is cheap in comparison to all the aggravation. Torquing it back down is just as easy. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lawry Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:33 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. OK. I'l bite. How does this give you an advantage over the 'bump' method? Bill 93 6spd single T, FMIC, AEM On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Roger Marquez wrote: > Or > > > http://www.etooldirect.com/manufacturer/schley-products/schley-64300-lexus-toyota-harmonic-damper-holding-tool.html > > Worth every penny IMO. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Ryan welch > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:29 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > > Get a long breaker bar and make sure you know what direction the motor > turns then lift the car a little off the ground and turn the key to start > it, the force breaks free the bolt. Be careful, you DO NOT want to start it > up, just bump it over. > > --- On Sat, 12/19/09, M. Cheema wrote: > > > From: M. Cheema > Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:28 PM > > > Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does > anyone have any idea as to what i can do? > > Thanks. > Hammad > 93 JDM 400hp > 93TT > 93N/A > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From myothersupra at yahoo.com Sun Dec 20 08:55:20 2009 From: myothersupra at yahoo.com (Thomas Bradley) Date: Sun Dec 20 08:55:52 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. In-Reply-To: <715b3dd70912192133r1f3970acm40f81205fa8a739c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <676326.70324.qm@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Am I looking at it right and drawing the correct conclusion because it appears to?attach to?the pulley with the 2 long bolts?and allow you to attach a breaker bar to the tool to hold the pulley still or pin it down?while wrenching on the pulley bolt with another breaker bar? ? I've done the "bump the key" method on several occasions over the years between 7M and 2JZ timing belt intervals and front seal replacements but this tool looks really useful because re-torquing an automatic's crank?pulley bolt?isn't always easy. ? I've heard nightmares about trying to break free the IS300's 2JZ-GE?crank pulley bolt to the point that the IS300's starter apparently can't make enough?torque to?do the "bump the key" method and I've seen a buddy's?7M shear the mount/head off several breaker bars and split several sockets trying to break the crank pulley bolt loose too... Thomas myothersupra -------------- 98TT 6-Speed MkIV 93TT Auto MkIV 92T Auto MkIII 92T?5-Speed MkIII 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type 81 5-Speed MkI 01 E-Shift IS300 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Bill Lawry wrote: From: Bill Lawry Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 11:33 PM OK.? I'l bite. How does this give you an advantage over the 'bump' method? Bill 93 6spd single T, FMIC, AEM On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Roger Marquez wrote: > Or > > > http://www.etooldirect.com/manufacturer/schley-products/schley-64300-lexus-toyota-harmonic-damper-holding-tool.html > > Worth every penny IMO. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Ryan welch > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:29 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > > Get a long breaker bar and make sure you know what direction the motor > turns then lift the car a little off the ground and turn the key to start > it, the force breaks free the bolt. Be careful, you DO NOT want to start it > up, just bump it over. > > --- On Sat, 12/19/09, M. Cheema wrote: > > > From: M. Cheema > Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:28 PM > > > Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does > anyone have any idea as to what i can do? > > Thanks. > Hammad > 93 JDM 400hp > 93TT > 93N/A > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From RogerM at marteq.com Sun Dec 20 11:10:12 2009 From: RogerM at marteq.com (Roger Marquez) Date: Sun Dec 20 11:15:55 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. Message-ID: <452F412EFC9517488115C0AD453FD88801B25CB42941@marteq07.marteq.com> Yes correct. Ive used the one in the Supra FSM and this one is just as good and alot cheaper. Ill gry to snap some pix for you guys today. Sent from my Windows Mobile phone -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Bradley Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:52 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. Am I looking at it right and drawing the correct conclusion because it appears to attach to the pulley with the 2 long bolts and allow you to attach a breaker bar to the tool to hold the pulley still or pin it down while wrenching on the pulley bolt with another breaker bar? I've done the "bump the key" method on several occasions over the years between 7M and 2JZ timing belt intervals and front seal replacements but this tool looks really useful because re-torquing an automatic's crank pulley bolt isn't always easy. I've heard nightmares about trying to break free the IS300's 2JZ-GE crank pulley bolt to the point that the IS300's starter apparently can't make enough torque to do the "bump the key" method and I've seen a buddy's 7M shear the mount/head off several breaker bars and split several sockets trying to break the crank pulley bolt loose too... Thomas myothersupra -------------- 98TT 6-Speed MkIV 93TT Auto MkIV 92T Auto MkIII 92T 5-Speed MkIII 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type 81 5-Speed MkI 01 E-Shift IS300 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Bill Lawry wrote: From: Bill Lawry Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 11:33 PM OK. I'l bite. How does this give you an advantage over the 'bump' method? Bill 93 6spd single T, FMIC, AEM On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Roger Marquez wrote: > Or > > > http://www.etooldirect.com/manufacturer/schley-products/schley-64300-lexus-toyota-harmonic-damper-holding-tool.html > > Worth every penny IMO. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Ryan welch > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:29 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > > Get a long breaker bar and make sure you know what direction the motor > turns then lift the car a little off the ground and turn the key to start > it, the force breaks free the bolt. Be careful, you DO NOT want to start it > up, just bump it over. > > --- On Sat, 12/19/09, M. Cheema wrote: > > > From: M. Cheema > Subject: [mkiv] Crank shaft pully BOLT wont open. > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:28 PM > > > Hello guys....I cant get the crank shaft pully bolt to loosen up. does > anyone have any idea as to what i can do? > > Thanks. > Hammad > 93 JDM 400hp > 93TT > 93N/A > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv