From mk4umha at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 11:28:59 2009 From: mk4umha at gmail.com (John Smith) Date: Mon Nov 23 11:29:25 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> Message-ID: <001701ca6c62$73051c30$590f5490$@com> I doubt there's any trolling. Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car near GTR performance numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... See, we know how to make sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When we do. we're going to artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of money for it. And yep, we just choose not to design sporty cars that is aesthetically appealing for the rest of the consumer base because there's already tons of other manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they perform well, but they look even better standing still! Toyota can't compete in that market! So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars that are Hip, and we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get the majority of the consumers from point A to B. So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. So that sucks for us car enthusiast. If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying a Nissan, BMW, Audi, Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, Subaru, Mitsubishi, etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want a Toyota. Toyota is a brand that you turn to if you're looking for something that has great MPG and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Williams Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along with my wife, I was the passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought it was little too small and cute..... Good luck with that. Aaron W. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of jami b Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? Jami > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > From: supra@jtanner.org > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, although the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a hatchback. > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > Jim > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > Andy > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > >> > >> > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard > >> time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the > >> wheel... > >> > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > >> Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much > >> quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can > >> live with the noise... > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time > >> and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins > >> finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on > >> "The Deere" now... :) > >> > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after > >> a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic > >> actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off > >> the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next > >> red light... :) > >> > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that > >> little seal to swell... > >> > >> Thomas > >> myothersupra > >> -------------- > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > >> 92T Auto MkIII > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > >> > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > >> wrote: > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > >> > >> > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > >> putting it in in the first place. > >> > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. > >> > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the > >> gas at high revs. > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > >> > >> Patrick > >> 94 BPU > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > >> > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> > >> > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still > >> sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since > >> it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > >>> > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > >> still around. > >>> > >>> Erven > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > >> tires > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > >> > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> > >>> > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > >>>> > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >>>> > >>>> Larry > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ ______________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4627 (20091121) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4627 (20091121) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From gdatuashvili at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 12:38:27 2009 From: gdatuashvili at gmail.com (George Datuashvili) Date: Mon Nov 23 12:40:40 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <001701ca6c62$73051c30$590f5490$@com> References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> <001701ca6c62$73051c30$590f5490$@com> Message-ID: <37b62b520911231038u21929e7bh5010c49e56101e4@mail.gmail.com> Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from Toyota :) Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't even come with the proper transmission... On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith wrote: > I doubt there's any trolling. > > Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car near GTR performance > numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... See, we know how to > make > sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When we do. we're going > to > artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of money for it. And yep, > we just choose not to design sporty cars that is aesthetically appealing > for > the rest of the consumer base because there's already tons of other > manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they perform well, but > they look even better standing still! Toyota can't compete in that market! > So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars that are Hip, and > we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get the majority of the > consumers from point A to B. > > So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. So that sucks for us > car enthusiast. > > If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying a Nissan, BMW, Audi, > Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, Subaru, Mitsubishi, > etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want a Toyota. Toyota is > a > brand that you turn to if you're looking for something that has great MPG > and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. > > If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Aaron Williams > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along with my wife, I was the > passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought it was little too > small and cute..... Good luck with that. > > Aaron W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > jami > b > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... > > Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > > Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still > really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, > although > the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an > aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, > suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more > supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been > toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a > hatchback. > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story > short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else > all > together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just > wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my > '99 > 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of > Motor > Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the > old days already! > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > > >> > > >> > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc > > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard > > >> time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the > > >> wheel... > > >> > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > > >> Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for > > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into > > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much > > >> quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can > > >> live with the noise... > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time > > >> and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins > > >> finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on > > >> "The Deere" now... :) > > >> > > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months > > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after > > >> a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic > > >> actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off > > >> the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next > > >> red light... :) > > >> > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that > > >> little seal to swell... > > >> > > >> Thomas > > >> myothersupra > > >> -------------- > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > >> > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > >> wrote: > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > > >> > > >> > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to > > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing > > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside > > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the > > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now > > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > >> > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont > > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. > > >> > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox > > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in > > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really > > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the > > >> gas at high revs. > > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get > > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > > >> > > >> Patrick > > >> 94 BPU > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > > >> > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> > > >> > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still > > >> sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I > > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I > > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the > > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since > > >> it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > >>> > > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > > >> still around. > > >>> > > >>> Erven > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > > >> tires > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > >> > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > >>>> > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > >>>> > > >>>> Larry > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > ______________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From suprastud97 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 19:28:00 2009 From: suprastud97 at gmail.com (Dean Bates) Date: Mon Nov 23 19:28:23 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Re: Mkiv Digest, Vol 79, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <200911231800.nANI04Q4018419@mkiv.com> References: <200911231800.nANI04Q4018419@mkiv.com> Message-ID: <77f13f3c0911231728m7f00f3advf45d7b347295978a@mail.gmail.com> The IS-F is a great, sporty Toyota of today withoiut a huge sticker price. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Mkiv mailing list submissions to > mkiv@mkiv.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mkiv-request@mkiv.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mkiv-owner@mkiv.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mkiv digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Hello - anyone home? (John Smith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:28:59 -0600 > From: "John Smith" > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Message-ID: <001701ca6c62$73051c30$590f5490$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I doubt there's any trolling. > > Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car near GTR performance > numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... See, we know how to > make > sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When we do. we're going > to > artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of money for it. And yep, > we just choose not to design sporty cars that is aesthetically appealing > for > the rest of the consumer base because there's already tons of other > manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they perform well, but > they look even better standing still! Toyota can't compete in that market! > So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars that are Hip, and > we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get the majority of the > consumers from point A to B. > > So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. So that sucks for us > car enthusiast. > > If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying a Nissan, BMW, Audi, > Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, Subaru, Mitsubishi, > etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want a Toyota. Toyota is > a > brand that you turn to if you're looking for something that has great MPG > and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. > > If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Aaron Williams > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along with my wife, I was the > passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought it was little too > small and cute..... Good luck with that. > > Aaron W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > jami > b > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... > > Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > > Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still > really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, > although > the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an > aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, > suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more > supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been > toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a > hatchback. > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story > short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else > all > together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just > wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my > '99 > 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of > Motor > Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the > old days already! > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > > >> > > >> > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc > > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard > > >> time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the > > >> wheel... > > >> > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > > >> Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for > > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into > > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much > > >> quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can > > >> live with the noise... > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time > > >> and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins > > >> finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on > > >> "The Deere" now... :) > > >> > > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months > > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after > > >> a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic > > >> actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off > > >> the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next > > >> red light... :) > > >> > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that > > >> little seal to swell... > > >> > > >> Thomas > > >> myothersupra > > >> -------------- > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > >> > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > >> wrote: > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > > >> > > >> > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to > > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing > > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside > > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the > > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now > > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > >> > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont > > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. > > >> > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox > > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in > > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really > > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the > > >> gas at high revs. > > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get > > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > > >> > > >> Patrick > > >> 94 BPU > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > > >> > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> > > >> > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still > > >> sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I > > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I > > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the > > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since > > >> it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > >>> > > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > > >> still around. > > >>> > > >>> Erven > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > > >> tires > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > >> > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > >>>> > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > >>>> > > >>>> Larry > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > ______________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > End of Mkiv Digest, Vol 79, Issue 6 > *********************************** > From jza80-alfvza at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 23 21:28:36 2009 From: jza80-alfvza at sbcglobal.net (lance) Date: Mon Nov 23 21:28:52 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <37b62b520911231038u21929e7bh5010c49e56101e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com><8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org><001701ca6c62$73051c30$590f5490$@com> <37b62b520911231038u21929e7bh5010c49e56101e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <71973C523D7F4C028961DA966A95AE8C@Wolrab.local> You wouldn't say that if you drove one. I've never missed a single shift in my IS-F. Never over-rev'd it, and never lugged it either. It also shifts faster than a human can, especially in manual mode. No heel-toe crap either, it does all the throttle work for you. And it was a blast to drive at Carolina Motorsports Park last June. All it really lacks is a limited slip differential, which they cured in the 2010 models (they also gave anyone who wants a Torsen spool an OEM option.) Andy underestimates my Supra. I drive it ~1500 miles a year. It's still amazingly stock when the hood is up (except for the PWR radiator), and I've replaced everything rubber under the hood in the last 5000 miles, so it really looks pretty new. I wish I could retrofit all the amenities from the IS-F into the Supra - push button start, door handle keyless unlock, telescoping steering column, 360mm Brembo 6 piston brakes...I could go on and on, but I drive the F daily because it's got the Supra's performance and it's QUIET inside. My big question with the Supra is, do I leave it the way it is, APU it, turn it into a killer track car, or??? Hard to decide. I'm having a lot of fun with HPDE... I'm still in shock though. I can't believe Jim would get rid of a perfectly good Elise and buy a 135i... Lance '93 6 Speed TT Coupe -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of George Datuashvili Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:38 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from Toyota :) Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't even come with the proper transmission... On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith wrote: > I doubt there's any trolling. > > Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car near GTR performance > numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... See, we know how to > make > sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When we do. we're going > to > artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of money for it. And yep, > we just choose not to design sporty cars that is aesthetically appealing > for > the rest of the consumer base because there's already tons of other > manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they perform well, but > they look even better standing still! Toyota can't compete in that market! > So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars that are Hip, and > we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get the majority of the > consumers from point A to B. > > So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. So that sucks for us > car enthusiast. > > If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying a Nissan, BMW, Audi, > Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, Subaru, Mitsubishi, > etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want a Toyota. Toyota is > a > brand that you turn to if you're looking for something that has great MPG > and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. > > If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > Aaron Williams > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along with my wife, I was the > passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought it was little too > small and cute..... Good luck with that. > > Aaron W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of > jami > b > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... > > Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > > Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still > really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, > although > the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an > aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, > suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more > supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been > toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a > hatchback. > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story > short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else > all > together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just > wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my > '99 > 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of > Motor > Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the > old days already! > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > > >> > > >> > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc > > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard > > >> time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the > > >> wheel... > > >> > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > > >> Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for > > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into > > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much > > >> quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can > > >> live with the noise... > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time > > >> and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins > > >> finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on > > >> "The Deere" now... :) > > >> > > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months > > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after > > >> a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic > > >> actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off > > >> the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next > > >> red light... :) > > >> > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that > > >> little seal to swell... > > >> > > >> Thomas > > >> myothersupra > > >> -------------- > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > >> > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > >> wrote: > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > > >> > > >> > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to > > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing > > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside > > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the > > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now > > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > >> > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont > > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. > > >> > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox > > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in > > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really > > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the > > >> gas at high revs. > > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get > > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > > >> > > >> Patrick > > >> 94 BPU > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > > >> > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> > > >> > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still > > >> sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I > > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I > > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the > > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since > > >> it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > >>> > > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > > >> still around. > > >>> > > >>> Erven > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > > >> tires > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > >> > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > >>>> > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > >>>> > > >>>> Larry > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > ______________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From iteresh at inbox.com Mon Nov 23 22:36:06 2009 From: iteresh at inbox.com (Igor T) Date: Mon Nov 23 22:37:54 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <37b62b520911231038u21929e7bh5010c49e56101e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <001701ca6c62$73051c30$590f5490$@com> <8b4b84e5-7820-42d9-b74f-0d196af8ddb7@jtanner.org> <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nissan GT-R? > -----Original Message----- > From: gdatuashvili@gmail.com > Sent: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:38:27 -0800 > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. > Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from Toyota :) > Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't even come with the > proper transmission... > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith wrote: > >> I doubt there's any trolling. >> >> Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car near GTR >> performance >> numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... See, we know how to >> make >> sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When we do. we're >> going >> to >> artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of money for it. And >> yep, >> we just choose not to design sporty cars that is aesthetically appealing >> for >> the rest of the consumer base because there's already tons of other >> manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they perform well, but >> they look even better standing still! Toyota can't compete in that >> market! >> So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars that are Hip, and >> we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get the majority of the >> consumers from point A to B. >> >> So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. So that sucks for >> us >> car enthusiast. >> >> If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying a Nissan, BMW, >> Audi, >> Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, Subaru, >> Mitsubishi, >> etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want a Toyota. Toyota >> is >> a >> brand that you turn to if you're looking for something that has great >> MPG >> and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. >> >> If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> Aaron Williams >> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM >> To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' >> Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >> Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along with my wife, I was >> the >> passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought it was little too >> small and cute..... Good luck with that. >> >> Aaron W. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of >> jami >> b >> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM >> To: mkiv@mkiv.com >> Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >> >> This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... >> >> Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? >> >> >> >> Jami >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>> From: supra@jtanner.org >>> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 >>> To: mkiv@mkiv.com >>> >>> I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am >>> still >> really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, >> although >> the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an >> aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, >> suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are >> more >> supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has >> been >> toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a >> hatchback. >>> >>> Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: >>> >>>> Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story >> short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else >> all >> together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a >> comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. >> Was >> '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how >> many >> more years were MKIV's made in Japan? >>>> >>>> I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just >> wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my >> '99 >> 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an >> affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the >> negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of >> Motor >> Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are >> the >> old days already! >>>> >>>> Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? >> I've been out of the loop for a while. >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Thomas Bradley >>>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>>>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>>>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to >>>>> hear of your rough Supra year! >>>>> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere >>>>> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc >>>>> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard >>>>> time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the >>>>> wheel... >>>>> >>>>> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra >>>>> Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for >>>>> when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into >>>>> neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much >>>>> quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can >>>>> live with the noise... >>>>> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time >>>>> and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins >>>>> finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on >>>>> "The Deere" now... :) >>>>> >>>>> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months >>>>> and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after >>>>> a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic >>>>> actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off >>>>> the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next >>>>> red light... :) >>>>> >>>>> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that >>>>> little seal to swell... >>>>> >>>>> Thomas >>>>> myothersupra >>>>> -------------- >>>>> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV >>>>> 93TT Auto MkIV >>>>> 92T Auto MkIII >>>>> 92T 5-Speed MkIII >>>>> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >>>>> 81 5-Speed MkI >>>>> 01 E-Shift IS300 >>>>> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R >>>>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser >>>>> wrote: >>>>> From: Patrick Kaiser >>>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>>>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>>>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to >>>>> get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing >>>>> clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside >>>>> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the >>>>> idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now >>>>> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about >>>>> putting it in in the first place. >>>>> >>>>> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont >>>>> plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. >>>>> >>>>> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The >>>>> mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox >>>>> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in >>>>> the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. >>>>> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really >>>>> bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the >>>>> gas at high revs. >>>>> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get >>>>> rid of it just because of the noise. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick >>>>> 94 BPU >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" >>>>> >>>>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up >>>>> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still >>>>> sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I >>>>> put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I >>>>> guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the >>>>> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since >>>>> it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all >>>>> still around. >>>>>> >>>>>> Erven >>>>>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square >>>>> tires >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. 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Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium From doc_021 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 24 07:26:16 2009 From: doc_021 at yahoo.com (andy fichter) Date: Tue Nov 24 07:26:39 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <71973C523D7F4C028961DA966A95AE8C@Wolrab.local> Message-ID: <87754.25929.qm@web52812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> "Andy underestimates my Supra." I don't think Lance is talking about me. When I drove mine regularly, (probably 1000 to 1500 miles/year too), I gave it the normal street wear and tear and NEVER had a single problem w/ it. Probably the most reliable car I ever drove. Take a beating and keep on ticking. I never track raced it though. Did the 1/4 mile drag a couple times way back when it was stock. Fun, but not what a stock Supra was meant to do to see it's full potential. I wanted turns in the road. Oh well. Andy --- On Mon, 11/23/09, lance wrote: > From: lance Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:28 PM > You wouldn't say that if you drove > one.? I've never missed a single shift in > my IS-F.? Never over-rev'd it, and never lugged it > either.? It also shifts > faster than a human can, especially in manual mode.? > No heel-toe crap > either, it does all the throttle work for you.? And it > was a blast to drive > at Carolina Motorsports Park last June.? All it really > lacks is a limited > slip differential, which they cured in the 2010 models > (they also gave > anyone who wants a Torsen spool an OEM option.) > > Andy underestimates my Supra.? I drive it ~1500 miles > a year.? It's still > amazingly stock when the hood is up (except for the PWR > radiator), and I've > replaced everything rubber under the hood in the last 5000 > miles, so it > really looks pretty new.? I wish I could retrofit all > the amenities from the > IS-F into the Supra - push button start, door handle > keyless unlock, > telescoping steering column, 360mm Brembo 6 piston > brakes...I could go on > and on, but I drive the F daily because it's got the > Supra's performance and > it's QUIET inside. > > My big question with the Supra is, do I leave it the way it > is, APU it, turn > it into a killer track car, or???? Hard to > decide.? I'm having a lot of fun > with HPDE... > > I'm still in shock though.? I can't believe Jim would > get rid of a perfectly > good Elise and buy a 135i... > > Lance > '93 6 Speed TT Coupe > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > George Datuashvili > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:38 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. > Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from Toyota > :) > Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't even > come with the > proper transmission... > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith > wrote: > > > I doubt there's any trolling. > > > > Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car > near GTR performance > > numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... > See, we know how to > > make > > sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When > we do. we're going > > to > > artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of > money for it. And > yep, > > we just choose not to design sporty cars that is > aesthetically appealing > > for > > the rest of the consumer base because there's already > tons of other > > manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they > perform well, but > > they look even better standing still! Toyota can't > compete in that market! > > So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars > that are Hip, and > > we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get > the majority of the > > consumers from point A to B. > > > > So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. > So that sucks for us > > car enthusiast. > > > > If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying > a Nissan, BMW, > Audi, > > Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, > Subaru, Mitsubishi, > > etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want > a Toyota. Toyota is > > a > > brand that you turn to if you're looking for something > that has great MPG > > and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. > > > > If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > > Aaron Williams > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along > with my wife, I was the > > passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought > it was little too > > small and cute..... Good luck? with that. > > > > Aaron W. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > > jami > > b > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > > > This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in > awhile.... > > > > Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > > > > > > Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under > a year now, and am > still > > really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP > 3.0L engine, > > although > > the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and > the engine is an > > aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes > with 18" wheels, > > suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, > front seats are > more > > supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The > exterior styling has been > > toned down, but visibility is better since it's a > coupe instead of a > > hatchback. > > > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new > Supra. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't > go through. Long story > > short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV > Supra? Something else > > all > > together? Rumors have been out there for into the > years now about a > > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but > still nothing. Was > > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the > US? If not, how many > > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I > see one, (rarely) I just > > wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get > me wrong. I love my > > '99 > > 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success > again w/ an > > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. > Especially now w/ the > > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back > the old days of > > Motor > > Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't > believe those are the > > old days already! > > > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ > Toyota's sports car future? > > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley > wrote: > > > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 > PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > > > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > > > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper > paint damage for you? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The > Deere" (John Deere > > > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I > put in the strapless rps cc > > > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they > stopped giving me a hard > > > >> time about it after I let each of them > have a turn behind the > > > >> wheel... > > > >> > > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at > so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > > > >> Nationals meets over the years so at > least I knew what I was in for > > > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling > coming off hard pulls into > > > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at > first but it rev's so much > > > >> quicker and easier and feels so much > more responsive that I can > > > >> live with the noise... > > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc > should last me a looooong time > > > >> and still hold up great after I go > single when my factory twins > > > >> finally get tired, which should still be > a while yet at just 78k on > > > >> "The Deere" now... :) > > > >> > > > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic > lights for the first few months > > > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped > to keep it quiet but after > > > >> a while I just ignored it and got to > where if someone in traffic > > > >> actually made a negative comment I'd > usually launch agressively off > > > >> the green light and they'd change their > tune as we came to the next > > > >> red light... :) > > > >> > > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your > V160. Wouldn't want that > > > >> little seal to swell... > > > >> > > > >> Thomas > > > >> myothersupra > > > >> -------------- > > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > > >> > > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 > PM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All > started that I only wanted to > > > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD > installed. Ended with a rubbing > > > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car > standing 3 months outside > > > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and > clutch disc and then the > > > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my > rear bumper paint. And now > > > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud > that I really feel bad about > > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > > >> > > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on > weekends though. And I dont > > > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like > 3-4k miles every year. > > > >> > > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the > noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > > > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid > that would make the gearbox > > > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff > that causes problems in > > > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using > Royal Purple fluid. > > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to > ~1200 rpm, but its really > > > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high > gears or letting off the > > > >> gas at high revs. > > > >> The car feels far more agile with the > LWFW, so I would hate to get > > > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > > > >> > > > >> Patrick > > > >> 94 BPU > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Erven" > > > >> > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 > PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to > see we are still up > > > >> and running, for I min I thought we were > done.Well my supra still > > > >> sits in the garage where it has been > since last October.Last year I > > > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year > well about 150 miles,I > > > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my > time now.I wish I have the > > > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't > bother me about it since > > > >> it's not costing any money,then again > she knows better. > > > >>> > > > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to > see we are all > > > >> still around. > > > >>> > > > >>> Erven > > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the > garage with square > > > >> tires > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Larry M. Bryant" > > > >> > > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing > List'" > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 > 12:08 AM > > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Larry > > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > > > > > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > > ______________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus > signature > > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus > signature > > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From c_romano at yahoo.com Tue Nov 24 07:41:42 2009 From: c_romano at yahoo.com (Chris Romano) Date: Tue Nov 24 07:42:09 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <160977.30635.qm@web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, since selling my Supra the closest thing I've found is the 370Z. I like the GTR but the price is a bit more than I care to spend and honestly I'm not a fan of how it looks. Of course, the 370Z is nice however...it's still not a Supra. I'd be happy if Toyota would just start making the Supra again, it was so good that even if they did not change a thing it would still be competitive. In these economic times it will not happen so my hope is that some point Toyota will release the MKV but I'm not holding my breath. Until then, I am happy with the 370Z and it's slightly faster than a stock Supra so it holds its own. If I end up keeping it I'll probably drop in a turbo kit so we'll see. --- On Mon, 11/23/09, Igor T wrote: > From: Igor T > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 8:36 PM > Nissan GT-R? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gdatuashvili@gmail.com > > Sent: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:38:27 -0800 > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. > > Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from > Toyota :) > > Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't > even come with the > > proper transmission... > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith > wrote: > > > >> I doubt there's any trolling. > >> > >> Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports > car near GTR > >> performance > >> numbers. They just know how to tease you and > say... See, we know how to > >> make > >> sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. > When we do. we're > >> going > >> to > >> artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons > of money for it. And > >> yep, > >> we just choose not to design sporty cars that is > aesthetically appealing > >> for > >> the rest of the consumer base because there's > already tons of other > >> manufacturers that already have them. Not only do > they perform well, but > >> they look even better standing still! Toyota can't > compete in that > >> market! > >> So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty > cars that are Hip, and > >> we'll continue to make reliable appliances that > get the majority of the > >> consumers from point A to B. > >> > >> So from Toyota's business stand point they're > right. So that sucks for > >> us > >> car enthusiast. > >> > >> If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either > buying a Nissan, BMW, > >> Audi, > >> Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, > Porsche, Subaru, > >> Mitsubishi, > >> etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I > want a Toyota. Toyota > >> is > >> a > >> brand that you turn to if you're looking for > something that has great > >> MPG > >> and reliability with zero satisfaction to the > senses. > >> > >> If you want fun and excitement, you look > elsewhere. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > >> Aaron Williams > >> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > >> To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > >> Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> > >> Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along > with my wife, I was > >> the > >> passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife > thought it was little too > >> small and cute..... Good luck? with that. > >> > >> Aaron W. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > >> jami > >> b > >> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > >> To: mkiv@mkiv.com > >> Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> > >> > >> This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in > awhile.... > >> > >> Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > >> > >> > >> > >> Jami > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> From: supra@jtanner.org > >>> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > >>> To: mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> > >>> I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little > under a year now, and am > >>> still > >> really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo > 300 HP 3.0L engine, > >> although > >> the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential > and the engine is an > >> aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. > Comes with 18" wheels, > >> suspension is better, steering feel/weight are > better, front seats are > >> more > >> supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The > exterior styling has > >> been > >> toned down, but visibility is better since it's a > coupe instead of a > >> hatchback. > >>> > >>> Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new > Supra. > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> > >>> On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Tried to reply before but I guess it > didn't go through. Long story > >> short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV > Supra? Something else > >> all > >> together? Rumors have been out there for into the > years now about a > >> comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, > but still nothing. > >> Was > >> '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to > the US? If not, how > >> many > >> more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > >>>> > >>>> I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time > I see one, (rarely) I just > >> wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't > get me wrong. I love my > >> '99 > >> 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much > success again w/ an > >> affordable sports car w/ super car performance. > Especially now w/ the > >> negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring > back the old days of > >> Motor > >> Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I > can't believe those are > >> the > >> old days already! > >>>> > >>>> Does anyone really know what's going on w/ > Toyota's sports car future? > >> I've been out of the loop for a while. > >>>> > >>>> Andy > >>>> > >>>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley > > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> From: Thomas Bradley > >>>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > >>>>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing > List" > >>>>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, > 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > >>>>> hear of your rough Supra year! > >>>>> I hope they at least fixed the bumper > paint damage for you? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The > Deere" (John Deere > >>>>> Tractors) because of the noise since I > put in the strapless rps cc > >>>>> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but > they stopped giving me a hard > >>>>> time about it after I let each of them > have a turn behind the > >>>>> wheel... > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd heard it in other Supras before at > so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > >>>>> Nationals meets over the years so at > least I knew what I was in for > >>>>> when I chose it. The occasional > stalling coming off hard pulls into > >>>>> neutral too quickly was annoying at > first but it rev's so much > >>>>> quicker and easier and feels so much > more responsive that I can > >>>>> live with the noise... > >>>>> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc > should last me a looooong time > >>>>> and still hold up great after I go > single when my factory twins > >>>>> finally get tired, which should still > be a while yet at just 78k on > >>>>> "The Deere" now... :) > >>>>> > >>>>> I used to be embarrassed at traffic > lights for the first few months > >>>>> and would hold the pedal in when > stopped to keep it quiet but after > >>>>> a while I just ignored it and got to > where if someone in traffic > >>>>> actually made a negative comment I'd > usually launch agressively off > >>>>> the green light and they'd change > their tune as we came to the next > >>>>> red light... :) > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd be leary of any additives in your > V160. Wouldn't want that > >>>>> little seal to swell... > >>>>> > >>>>> Thomas > >>>>> myothersupra > >>>>> -------------- > >>>>> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > >>>>> 93TT Auto MkIV > >>>>> 92T Auto MkIII > >>>>> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > >>>>> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > >>>>> 81 5-Speed MkI > >>>>> 01 E-Shift IS300 > >>>>> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > >>>>> > >>>>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> From: Patrick Kaiser > >>>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > >>>>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing > List" > >>>>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, > 4:01 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All > started that I only wanted to > >>>>> get my clutch changed and an LSD > installed. Ended with a rubbing > >>>>> clutch that was out of balance, my car > standing 3 months outside > >>>>> the shop waiting for a new flywheel > and clutch disc and then the > >>>>> idiots there scratching and cracking > my rear bumper paint. And now > >>>>> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud > that I really feel bad about > >>>>> putting it in in the first place. > >>>>> > >>>>> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on > weekends though. And I dont > >>>>> plan on selling it. I think I get like > 3-4k miles every year. > >>>>> > >>>>> BTW, you guys have any solution for > the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > >>>>> mechanic said they could add some > fluid that would make the gearbox > >>>>> not as noisy, but I guess its that > stuff that causes problems in > >>>>> the V160, right? Right now Im using > Royal Purple fluid. > >>>>> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to > ~1200 rpm, but its really > >>>>> bad sometimes while driving slow in > high gears or letting off the > >>>>> gas at high revs. > >>>>> The car feels far more agile with the > LWFW, so I would hate to get > >>>>> rid of it just because of the noise. > >>>>> > >>>>> Patrick > >>>>> 94 BPU > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Erven" > >>>>> > >>>>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing > List" > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 > PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> well what can I say,I am happy to > see we are still up > >>>>> and running, for I min I thought we > were done.Well my supra still > >>>>> sits in the garage where it has been > since last October.Last year I > >>>>> put about 500 miles on it and this > year well about 150 miles,I > >>>>> guess because my 6 months old son as > my time now.I wish I have the > >>>>> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't > bother me about it since > >>>>> it's not costing any money,then again > she knows better. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good > to see we are all > >>>>> still around. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Erven > >>>>>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the > garage with square > >>>>> tires > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Larry M. Bryant" > >>>>> > >>>>>> To: "'The MKIV.com National > Mailing List'" > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 > 12:08 AM > >>>>>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Larry > >>>>>>> '94 Silver Supra T > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>>>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>>>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > >> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > >> > >> > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > >> ______________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus > >> signature > >> database 4627 (20091121) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus > >> signature > >> database 4627 (20091121) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > ____________________________________________________________ > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, > sharks & orcas on your desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From jza80-alfvza at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 24 08:20:32 2009 From: jza80-alfvza at sbcglobal.net (lance) Date: Tue Nov 24 08:20:48 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <87754.25929.qm@web52812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <71973C523D7F4C028961DA966A95AE8C@Wolrab.local> <87754.25929.qm@web52812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <711CE301C5434422B59E21AF3EF62C64@Wolrab.local> You're right. I misspelled Andi...no worries, Baritchi knows what I meant. Lance '93 6 Speed TT Coupe -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of andy fichter Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:26 AM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? "Andy underestimates my Supra." I don't think Lance is talking about me. When I drove mine regularly, (probably 1000 to 1500 miles/year too), I gave it the normal street wear and tear and NEVER had a single problem w/ it. Probably the most reliable car I ever drove. Take a beating and keep on ticking. I never track raced it though. Did the 1/4 mile drag a couple times way back when it was stock. Fun, but not what a stock Supra was meant to do to see it's full potential. I wanted turns in the road. Oh well. Andy --- On Mon, 11/23/09, lance wrote: > From: lance Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:28 PM > You wouldn't say that if you drove > one.? I've never missed a single shift in > my IS-F.? Never over-rev'd it, and never lugged it > either.? It also shifts > faster than a human can, especially in manual mode.? > No heel-toe crap > either, it does all the throttle work for you.? And it > was a blast to drive > at Carolina Motorsports Park last June.? All it really > lacks is a limited > slip differential, which they cured in the 2010 models > (they also gave > anyone who wants a Torsen spool an OEM option.) > > Andy underestimates my Supra.? I drive it ~1500 miles > a year.? It's still > amazingly stock when the hood is up (except for the PWR > radiator), and I've > replaced everything rubber under the hood in the last 5000 > miles, so it > really looks pretty new.? I wish I could retrofit all > the amenities from the > IS-F into the Supra - push button start, door handle > keyless unlock, > telescoping steering column, 360mm Brembo 6 piston > brakes...I could go on > and on, but I drive the F daily because it's got the > Supra's performance and > it's QUIET inside. > > My big question with the Supra is, do I leave it the way it > is, APU it, turn > it into a killer track car, or???? Hard to > decide.? I'm having a lot of fun > with HPDE... > > I'm still in shock though.? I can't believe Jim would > get rid of a perfectly > good Elise and buy a 135i... > > Lance > '93 6 Speed TT Coupe > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > George Datuashvili > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:38 PM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. > Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from Toyota > :) > Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't even > come with the > proper transmission... > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith > wrote: > > > I doubt there's any trolling. > > > > Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports car > near GTR performance > > numbers. They just know how to tease you and say... > See, we know how to > > make > > sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. When > we do. we're going > > to > > artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons of > money for it. And > yep, > > we just choose not to design sporty cars that is > aesthetically appealing > > for > > the rest of the consumer base because there's already > tons of other > > manufacturers that already have them. Not only do they > perform well, but > > they look even better standing still! Toyota can't > compete in that market! > > So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty cars > that are Hip, and > > we'll continue to make reliable appliances that get > the majority of the > > consumers from point A to B. > > > > So from Toyota's business stand point they're right. > So that sucks for us > > car enthusiast. > > > > If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either buying > a Nissan, BMW, > Audi, > > Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, Porsche, > Subaru, Mitsubishi, > > etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I want > a Toyota. Toyota is > > a > > brand that you turn to if you're looking for something > that has great MPG > > and reliability with zero satisfaction to the senses. > > > > If you want fun and excitement, you look elsewhere. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > > Aaron Williams > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along > with my wife, I was the > > passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought > it was little too > > small and cute..... Good luck? with that. > > > > Aaron W. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of > > jami > > b > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > > > This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in > awhile.... > > > > Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > > > > > > Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under > a year now, and am > still > > really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP > 3.0L engine, > > although > > the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and > the engine is an > > aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes > with 18" wheels, > > suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, > front seats are > more > > supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The > exterior styling has been > > toned down, but visibility is better since it's a > coupe instead of a > > hatchback. > > > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new > Supra. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't > go through. Long story > > short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV > Supra? Something else > > all > > together? Rumors have been out there for into the > years now about a > > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but > still nothing. Was > > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the > US? If not, how many > > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I > see one, (rarely) I just > > wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get > me wrong. I love my > > '99 > > 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success > again w/ an > > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. > Especially now w/ the > > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back > the old days of > > Motor > > Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't > believe those are the > > old days already! > > > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ > Toyota's sports car future? > > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley > wrote: > > > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 > PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > > > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > > > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper > paint damage for you? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The > Deere" (John Deere > > > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I > put in the strapless rps cc > > > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they > stopped giving me a hard > > > >> time about it after I let each of them > have a turn behind the > > > >> wheel... > > > >> > > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at > so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > > > >> Nationals meets over the years so at > least I knew what I was in for > > > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling > coming off hard pulls into > > > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at > first but it rev's so much > > > >> quicker and easier and feels so much > more responsive that I can > > > >> live with the noise... > > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc > should last me a looooong time > > > >> and still hold up great after I go > single when my factory twins > > > >> finally get tired, which should still be > a while yet at just 78k on > > > >> "The Deere" now... :) > > > >> > > > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic > lights for the first few months > > > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped > to keep it quiet but after > > > >> a while I just ignored it and got to > where if someone in traffic > > > >> actually made a negative comment I'd > usually launch agressively off > > > >> the green light and they'd change their > tune as we came to the next > > > >> red light... :) > > > >> > > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your > V160. Wouldn't want that > > > >> little seal to swell... > > > >> > > > >> Thomas > > > >> myothersupra > > > >> -------------- > > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > > >> > > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 > PM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All > started that I only wanted to > > > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD > installed. Ended with a rubbing > > > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car > standing 3 months outside > > > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and > clutch disc and then the > > > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my > rear bumper paint. And now > > > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud > that I really feel bad about > > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > > >> > > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on > weekends though. And I dont > > > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like > 3-4k miles every year. > > > >> > > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the > noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > > > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid > that would make the gearbox > > > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff > that causes problems in > > > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using > Royal Purple fluid. > > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to > ~1200 rpm, but its really > > > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high > gears or letting off the > > > >> gas at high revs. > > > >> The car feels far more agile with the > LWFW, so I would hate to get > > > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > > > >> > > > >> Patrick > > > >> 94 BPU > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Erven" > > > >> > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 > PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to > see we are still up > > > >> and running, for I min I thought we were > done.Well my supra still > > > >> sits in the garage where it has been > since last October.Last year I > > > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year > well about 150 miles,I > > > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my > time now.I wish I have the > > > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't > bother me about it since > > > >> it's not costing any money,then again > she knows better. > > > >>> > > > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to > see we are all > > > >> still around. > > > >>> > > > >>> Erven > > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the > garage with square > > > >> tires > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Larry M. Bryant" > > > >> > > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing > List'" > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 > 12:08 AM > > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > home? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Larry > > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > > > > > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > > ______________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus > signature > > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus > signature > > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From doc_021 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 24 09:01:47 2009 From: doc_021 at yahoo.com (andy fichter) Date: Tue Nov 24 09:02:16 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <711CE301C5434422B59E21AF3EF62C64@Wolrab.local> Message-ID: <875053.67406.qm@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I figured. I've seen many posts from Andi. Much more active than me. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, lance wrote: > From: lance > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 9:20 AM > You're right.? I misspelled > Andi...no worries, Baritchi knows what I meant. > > Lance > '93 6 Speed TT Coupe > > -----Original Message----- > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > On Behalf Of andy > fichter > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:26 AM > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > "Andy underestimates my Supra." I don't think Lance is > talking about me. > When I drove mine regularly, (probably 1000 to 1500 > miles/year too), I gave > it the normal street wear and tear and NEVER had a single > problem w/ it. > Probably the most reliable car I ever drove. Take a beating > and keep on > ticking. I never track raced it though. Did the 1/4 mile > drag a couple times > way back when it was stock. Fun, but not what a stock Supra > was meant to do > to see it's full potential. I wanted turns in the road. Oh > well. > > > Andy > > --- On Mon, 11/23/09, lance > wrote: > > > From: lance > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:28 PM > > You wouldn't say that if you drove > > one.? I've never missed a single shift in > > my IS-F.? Never over-rev'd it, and never lugged it > > either.? It also shifts > > faster than a human can, especially in manual mode.? > > No heel-toe crap > > either, it does all the throttle work for you.? And > it > > was a blast to drive > > at Carolina Motorsports Park last June.? All it > really > > lacks is a limited > > slip differential, which they cured in the 2010 > models > > (they also gave > > anyone who wants a Torsen spool an OEM option.) > > > > Andy underestimates my Supra.? I drive it ~1500 > miles > > a year.? It's still > > amazingly stock when the hood is up (except for the > PWR > > radiator), and I've > > replaced everything rubber under the hood in the last > 5000 > > miles, so it > > really looks pretty new.? I wish I could retrofit > all > > the amenities from the > > IS-F into the Supra - push button start, door handle > > keyless unlock, > > telescoping steering column, 360mm Brembo 6 piston > > brakes...I could go on > > and on, but I drive the F daily because it's got the > > Supra's performance and > > it's QUIET inside. > > > > My big question with the Supra is, do I leave it the > way it > > is, APU it, turn > > it into a killer track car, or???? Hard to > > decide.? I'm having a lot of fun > > with HPDE... > > > > I'm still in shock though.? I can't believe Jim > would > > get rid of a perfectly > > good Elise and buy a 135i... > > > > Lance > > '93 6 Speed TT Coupe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > > On Behalf Of > > George Datuashvili > > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:38 PM > > To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > Sigh, I have to completely agree with the rant. > > Sold my supra. Still waiting for replacement from > Toyota > > :) > > Or Lexus. The LFA pricing is ridiculous, and IS* don't > even > > come with the > > proper transmission... > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, John Smith > > wrote: > > > > > I doubt there's any trolling. > > > > > > Too bad Toyota can't make us a GTR priced sports > car > > near GTR performance > > > numbers. They just know how to tease you and > say... > > See, we know how to > > > make > > > sports cars like the LFA if we really wanted too. > When > > we do. we're going > > > to > > > artificially limit supply so that we can ask tons > of > > money for it. And > > yep, > > > we just choose not to design sporty cars that is > > aesthetically appealing > > > for > > > the rest of the consumer base because there's > already > > tons of other > > > manufacturers that already have them. Not only do > they > > perform well, but > > > they look even better standing still! Toyota > can't > > compete in that market! > > > So we're going to make Hybrids, econo FWD sporty > cars > > that are Hip, and > > > we'll continue to make reliable appliances that > get > > the majority of the > > > consumers from point A to B. > > > > > > So from Toyota's business stand point they're > right. > > So that sucks for us > > > car enthusiast. > > > > > > If I want a sporty car, I must resort to either > buying > > a Nissan, BMW, > > Audi, > > > Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Cadillac, Mazda, Dodge, > Porsche, > > Subaru, Mitsubishi, > > > etc... or stay stuck in the mid to late 90's if I > want > > a Toyota. Toyota is > > > a > > > brand that you turn to if you're looking for > something > > that has great MPG > > > and reliability with zero satisfaction to the > senses. > > > > > > If you want fun and excitement, you look > elsewhere. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > > On Behalf Of > > > Aaron Williams > > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:08 PM > > > To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' > > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > > > Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year > along > > with my wife, I was the > > > passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife > thought > > it was little too > > > small and cute..... Good luck? with that. > > > > > > Aaron W. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com > > [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] > > On Behalf Of > > > jami > > > b > > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > > > > > > This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading > in > > awhile.... > > > > > > Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little > under > > a year now, and am > > still > > > really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo > 300 HP > > 3.0L engine, > > > although > > > the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential > and > > the engine is an > > > aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. > Comes > > with 18" wheels, > > > suspension is better, steering feel/weight are > better, > > front seats are > > more > > > supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The > > exterior styling has been > > > toned down, but visibility is better since it's > a > > coupe instead of a > > > hatchback. > > > > > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new > > Supra. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it > didn't > > go through. Long story > > > short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? > MKV > > Supra? Something else > > > all > > > together? Rumors have been out there for into > the > > years now about a > > > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the > web, but > > still nothing. Was > > > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to > the > > US? If not, how many > > > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every > time I > > see one, (rarely) I just > > > wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't > get > > me wrong. I love my > > > '99 > > > 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much > success > > again w/ an > > > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. > > Especially now w/ the > > > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring > back > > the old days of > > > Motor > > > Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I > can't > > believe those are the > > > old days already! > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on > w/ > > Toyota's sports car future? > > > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > > home? > > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing > List" > > > > > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, > 5:29 > > PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > > > > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > > > > >> I hope they at least fixed the > bumper > > paint damage for you? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 > "The > > Deere" (John Deere > > > > >> Tractors) because of the noise > since I > > put in the strapless rps cc > > > > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but > they > > stopped giving me a hard > > > > >> time about it after I let each of > them > > have a turn behind the > > > > >> wheel... > > > > >> > > > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before > at > > so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > > > > >> Nationals meets over the years so > at > > least I knew what I was in for > > > > >> when I chose it. The occasional > stalling > > coming off hard pulls into > > > > >> neutral too quickly was annoying > at > > first but it rev's so much > > > > >> quicker and easier and feels so > much > > more responsive that I can > > > > >> live with the noise... > > > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc > twin-disc > > should last me a looooong time > > > > >> and still hold up great after I go > > single when my factory twins > > > > >> finally get tired, which should > still be > > a while yet at just 78k on > > > > >> "The Deere" now... :) > > > > >> > > > > >> I used to be embarrassed at > traffic > > lights for the first few months > > > > >> and would hold the pedal in when > stopped > > to keep it quiet but after > > > > >> a while I just ignored it and got > to > > where if someone in traffic > > > > >> actually made a negative comment > I'd > > usually launch agressively off > > > > >> the green light and they'd change > their > > tune as we came to the next > > > > >> red light... :) > > > > >> > > > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in > your > > V160. Wouldn't want that > > > > >> little seal to swell... > > > > >> > > > > >> Thomas > > > > >> myothersupra > > > > >> -------------- > > > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > > > >> > > > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick > Kaiser > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > > home? > > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing > List" > > > > > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, > 4:01 > > PM > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. > All > > started that I only wanted to > > > > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD > > installed. Ended with a rubbing > > > > >> clutch that was out of balance, my > car > > standing 3 months outside > > > > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel > and > > clutch disc and then the > > > > >> idiots there scratching and > cracking my > > rear bumper paint. And now > > > > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so > loud > > that I really feel bad about > > > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > > > >> > > > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly > on > > weekends though. And I dont > > > > >> plan on selling it. I think I get > like > > 3-4k miles every year. > > > > >> > > > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for > the > > noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > > > > >> mechanic said they could add some > fluid > > that would make the gearbox > > > > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that > stuff > > that causes problems in > > > > >> the V160, right? Right now Im > using > > Royal Purple fluid. > > > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it > to > > ~1200 rpm, but its really > > > > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in > high > > gears or letting off the > > > > >> gas at high revs. > > > > >> The car feels far more agile with > the > > LWFW, so I would hate to get > > > > >> rid of it just because of the > noise. > > > > >> > > > > >> Patrick > > > > >> 94 BPU > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: > > "Erven" > > > > >> > > > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing > List" > > > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 > 9:23 > > PM > > > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > > home? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy > to > > see we are still up > > > > >> and running, for I min I thought we > were > > done.Well my supra still > > > > >> sits in the garage where it has > been > > since last October.Last year I > > > > >> put about 500 miles on it and this > year > > well about 150 miles,I > > > > >> guess because my 6 months old son > as my > > time now.I wish I have the > > > > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey > doesn't > > bother me about it since > > > > >> it's not costing any money,then > again > > she knows better. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Happy thanksgiving > everyone,good to > > see we are all > > > > >> still around. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Erven > > > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in > the > > garage with square > > > > >> tires > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > "Larry M. Bryant" > > > > >> > > > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National > Mailing > > List'" > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, > 2009 > > 12:08 AM > > > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone > > home? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Larry > > > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn > more. > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLM > > > > > > > > > TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_________________________________ > > > ______________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > > version of virus > > signature > > > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > > version of virus > > signature > > > database 4627 (20091121) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > ? ? ? > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From mouseworks at mouseworks.com.au Wed Nov 25 03:37:44 2009 From: mouseworks at mouseworks.com.au (Glen Elliott) Date: Wed Nov 25 03:40:44 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise Message-ID: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A7D747F38A@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> Hi folks I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front rotors, pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been now the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or hitting the throttle cable... The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right hand sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, it goes away for a bit then comes back. Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about over bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to lock. Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it is definitely not that. This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly off... Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are not really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. Thanks Glen Belgrave, Australia From themedievalone at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 07:48:31 2009 From: themedievalone at hotmail.com (Jason Mayo) Date: Wed Nov 25 07:48:41 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Carfax Message-ID: Hey guys, Anyone have an active Carfax right now? I'd like a VIN ran. TIA, Jason _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From gdatuashvili at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 15:32:53 2009 From: gdatuashvili at gmail.com (George Datuashvili) Date: Wed Nov 25 15:33:22 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Odd front end noise In-Reply-To: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A7D747F38A@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> References: <81D787B66D411A45B47821000635C9DC01A7D747F38A@Mouseserv.mouseworks.int> Message-ID: <37b62b520911251332t3f46069cp7c39bca39ef2cc80@mail.gmail.com> Record the sound and post it. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Glen Elliott wrote: > Hi folks > > I am having a weird problem with my MKIV Supra. It has new front rotors, > pads, hubs & bearings ok, wheel alignment - the best it has ever been now > the back has been done, but it has a strange noise. If you go over an > undulating or uneven surface, you get a dragging noise and a vibration > through the throttle pedal - not the steering wheel or seat. It is like > something is touching the bottom of the vehicle but not all the time or > hitting the throttle cable... > > The noise is just as bad on the coast. At first, it was only in right hand > sweepers but now it is there all the time. If you apply the throttle, it > goes away for a bit then comes back. > > Could this be a broken engine mount causing the engine to rock about over > bumps? I cannot budge it though and no strange noises when lock to lock. > Power steering is good too - no pump noises... Noise is coming from the > front as fsar as I can tell. I have replaced a rear hub before and it is > definitely not that. > > This is driving me nuts and it feels like something is going to fly off... > > Any ideas? The Supra drives great otherwise but the KYB adjustable are not > really a good match to the stock springs - needed the ground clearance. > > Thanks > > Glen > Belgrave, Australia > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From suprastud97 at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 21:44:38 2009 From: suprastud97 at gmail.com (Dean Bates) Date: Wed Nov 25 21:44:56 2009 Subject: [mkiv] MKIV Digest Message-ID: <77f13f3c0911251944j16fddd9asdb8e979a0c8a3412@mail.gmail.com> Glen, Never keep the stock engine mounts - TRD Japan released a set of much harder urethane mounts for turbo Supras, which you can get from MVP motorsports. It might be something with the aftermarket suspension, too, but you just can't hear it under full-throttle because the engine is so loud. Dean