From bryant at cablelynx.com Tue Nov 17 23:08:22 2009 From: bryant at cablelynx.com (Larry M. Bryant) Date: Tue Nov 17 23:08:38 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <08F602C5D1DACB4FBFDBFB6814181DB7E679C5838A@ICE-MBX-1.ice.nd.edu> Message-ID: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Seems very quiet in here!? Well, Happy Thanksgiving! Larry '94 Silver Supra T From bobachris at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 23:17:44 2009 From: bobachris at gmail.com (Chris Bobadilla) Date: Tue Nov 17 23:18:03 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> References: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Message-ID: It has been quiet. Guess everyone has been busy with no issues to resolve or report. Happy thanksgiving as well everyone. Sent from Chris' iPhone On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:08 PM, "Larry M. Bryant" wrote: > Seems very quiet in here!? > > Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > Larry > '94 Silver Supra T > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From myothersupra at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 01:26:02 2009 From: myothersupra at yahoo.com (Thomas Bradley) Date: Wed Nov 18 01:26:13 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <71298.29980.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hey Larry, All's mostly well with the Supras as usual at my place... Still got the occasional?Code 71 EGR issue tripping the MIL, CEL, and TRAC OFF?lamps?on hot days with the a/c on at cruising speed?after more than like 20-30 minutes in the BPU?93TT automatic?but it doesn't seem to effect drivability, performance, or economy whatsoever?and there?is no emissions testing here?so for now work is a little?higher priority than the random EGR issue. ? Happy Thanksgiving to all! Thomas myothersupra -------------- 98TT 6-Speed MkIV 93TT Auto MkIV 92T Auto MkIII 92T?5-Speed MkIII 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type 81 5-Speed MkI 01 E-Shift IS300 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Larry M. Bryant wrote: From: Larry M. Bryant Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:08 PM Seems very quiet in here!? Well, Happy Thanksgiving! Larry '94 Silver Supra T _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From kzuke at charter.net Wed Nov 18 04:38:49 2009 From: kzuke at charter.net (KZuke) Date: Wed Nov 18 04:39:14 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <71298.29980.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> <71298.29980.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20091118023755.050ec5a0@charter.net> Wow, dude. You've had every generation Supra?!? I thought I was devout with an MKIII and MKIV! :) -Zuke At 11:26 PM 11/17/2009, you wrote: >Hey Larry, >All's mostly well with the Supras as usual at my place... >Still got the occasional Code 71 EGR issue tripping the MIL, CEL, >and TRAC OFF lamps on hot days with the a/c on at cruising speed >after more than like 20-30 minutes in the BPU 93TT automatic but it >doesn't seem to effect drivability, performance, or economy >whatsoever and there is no emissions testing here so for now work is >a little higher priority than the random EGR issue. > >Happy Thanksgiving to all! > >Thomas >myothersupra >-------------- >98TT 6-Speed MkIV >93TT Auto MkIV >92T Auto MkIII >92T 5-Speed MkIII >84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >81 5-Speed MkI >01 E-Shift IS300 >01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > >--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > > >From: Larry M. Bryant >Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" >Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:08 PM > > >Seems very quiet in here!? > >Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >Larry >'94 Silver Supra T > > >_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From inov8tn at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 07:47:56 2009 From: inov8tn at gmail.com (Bill Lawry) Date: Wed Nov 18 07:48:17 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> References: <08F602C5D1DACB4FBFDBFB6814181DB7E679C5838A@ICE-MBX-1.ice.nd.edu> <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <715b3dd70911180547m34f92543i152cdae0915f64b9@mail.gmail.com> Happy Thanksgiving to all! Just replaced a rear wheel bearing. It was easy. Desgned and built a puller tool ala Lance and put new in with help from LN2. Learned some stuff too. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > Seems very quiet in here!? > > Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > Larry > '94 Silver Supra T > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From dualcitizen39 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 08:55:02 2009 From: dualcitizen39 at yahoo.com (Roger Tucker) Date: Wed Nov 18 08:55:20 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Removal from mailing list! Message-ID: <758036.57475.qm@web45215.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Will you please remove my email address from? your mailing list. ? Thank You From johnacribb at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 11:48:47 2009 From: johnacribb at yahoo.com (John Cribb) Date: Wed Nov 18 11:49:54 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <396348.29858.qm@web113801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> My projects are still building and blowing up supercharged Lexus V8's ;-) Eventually I might put one in the Supra if I can get it to put out enough power, and live long enough. Hoping to hit somewhere in the high 600's with the next build, which should be ready early next year. Happy T'Giving to all next week. John '97 RSP, 6spd, APU hardtop --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Larry M. Bryant wrote: > From: Larry M. Bryant > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:08 PM > Seems very quiet in here!? > > Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > Larry > '94 Silver Supra T > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From dean.james.swanepoel at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 12:13:23 2009 From: dean.james.swanepoel at gmail.com (Dean Swanepoel) Date: Wed Nov 18 12:14:54 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Removal from mailing list! In-Reply-To: <758036.57475.qm@web45215.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <758036.57475.qm@web45215.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B043943.8070102@gmail.com> thanks for the email. Roger Tucker wrote: > Will you please remove my email address from your mailing list. > > Thank You > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > From mfahie at dsl.pipex.com Wed Nov 18 14:40:55 2009 From: mfahie at dsl.pipex.com (Martin F) Date: Wed Nov 18 14:43:05 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> References: <08F602C5D1DACB4FBFDBFB6814181DB7E679C5838A@ICE-MBX-1.ice.nd.edu> <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <001601ca688f$6d167200$47435600$@pipex.com> Nope, nobody here all banged up for speeding ! Martin -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Larry M. Bryant Sent: 18 November 2009 05:08 To: 'The MKIV.com National Mailing List' Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Seems very quiet in here!? Well, Happy Thanksgiving! Larry '94 Silver Supra T _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From smhagen1 at verizon.net Wed Nov 18 17:04:56 2009 From: smhagen1 at verizon.net (STUART HAGEN) Date: Wed Nov 18 17:05:09 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Message-ID: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in 2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. ? Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to 600whp in the stock turbo housings. ? OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that 90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe this is showing here and why it is dead. ? Stu Hagen From andi at airmail.net Wed Nov 18 17:08:27 2009 From: andi at airmail.net (Andi Baritchi) Date: Wed Nov 18 17:08:39 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B047E6B.8010109@airmail.net> I think I drive lance's supra almost as often as he does. Last time I was in Atlanta we had to buy a battery. just givin ya shit bud... ;) STUART HAGEN wrote: > Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in 2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. > > Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. > Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to 600whp in the stock turbo housings. > > OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that 90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe this is showing here and why it is dead. > > Stu Hagen > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From billp.mkiv at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 19:39:20 2009 From: billp.mkiv at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Wed Nov 18 19:39:33 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B04A1C8.6080500@gmail.com> Stu finally went to the Dark Side and installed 660 injectors!! Wow how times change. Bill Perkins 95 6spd STUART HAGEN wrote: >Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in 2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. > >Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. >Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to 600whp in the stock turbo housings. > >OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that 90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe this is showing here and why it is dead. > >Stu Hagen >_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > From daveh at to4r.com Wed Nov 18 19:49:26 2009 From: daveh at to4r.com (Dave Henry) Date: Wed Nov 18 19:49:38 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Message-ID: <20091119014919848@magazine.netdoor.com> Mine is a trailer queen, I haul it to he track and back but I enjoy the crap out of it when I drive it. I still enjoy reading the emails too, altho I don't typically have much to add. daveh -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:39 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Stu finally went to the Dark Side and installed 660 injectors!! Wow how times change. Bill Perkins 95 6spd STUART HAGEN wrote: >Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in 2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. > >Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. >Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to 600whp in the stock turbo housings. > >OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that 90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe this is showing here and why it is dead. > >Stu Hagen >_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com [The entire original message is not included] From smhagen1 at verizon.net Wed Nov 18 22:26:55 2009 From: smhagen1 at verizon.net (Stuart Hagen) Date: Wed Nov 18 22:27:11 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Message-ID: <001701ca68d0$8707c4c0$95174e40$@net> Ha..ha.660 is really going way out there huh~! Lol. Well, I figured if I was heading for unchartered territories I better get prepared. I really didn't need anything larger. Besides, I preferred to stay stock looking so I used Side feed injectors and I think this is about as large as they go. Speaking of the "dark side" you ever going to Upgrade to these GT28's ? Stu Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Stu finally went to the Dark Side and installed 660 injectors!! Wow how times change. Bill Perkins 95 6spd From myothersupra at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 13:10:16 2009 From: myothersupra at yahoo.com (Thomas Bradley) Date: Thu Nov 19 13:10:26 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <269810.426.qm@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I drove my 93TT automatic yesterday, the day before, the day before that, and so on for about the past 2 weeks, unfortunately with a for sale sign in the window...? :(? I bought it?at 120k miles with?fubar smoking?twins, took my time finding a?nice set of U.S. twins, a GReddy 3-row FMIC kit, BCC,?and full exhaust to BPU the?stock Supra,?finally swapped the twins and serviced EVERYTHING right before TX2K9, put over 5k miles on it in like 3 weeks, and the other 2,500 have been added?at random?over the past 5 months... ? My 98TT 6-speed typically gets about 5-8k added to the odometer a year since I bought it, most of which seems to happen?over the weeks preceeding, the days during,?and a few weeks following the annual trek to Houston where we inevitably?break something outside my budget either at the meet or shortly after, and it always drives?the 350+ miles home on?its' own?with whatever's broken but this?year it seemed fine for a change until the diff got?really angry on my way home from work the week after the Houston meet?and it's still waiting for me to take it apart... ? One of the?Turbo MkIII's is still waiting on a back-ordered head gasket, the other was a full interior roller waiting on a motor/tranny which I have in a donor and haven't had the time to pull yet, and the Katrina flood victim MkIII that I've owned over 15 years is still waiting on a full restoration... ? The MkII finally decided that popping up the?headlights?is too much work and I hate driving during the day with them manually popped up so that car?went from my daily errand car to my late night taco bell vehicle?and home-depot cargo truck 'till I figure out why the relay still clicks but the headlight motors don't energize anymore... ? The MkI is still waiting on the?duplicate?title since the original owner finally got the two vin typo's?corrected (B to 8, 4 to L) that the illinois dmv did when she got her dead husband's name removed, then she?dropped the corrected title in the mail to me with no tracking or certification and of course it never got here, months went by,?I didn't know she'd mailed it, and she didn't know I never got it... But she's the original owner, it's got every option I would've chosen, it's totally stock, everything but the a/c compressor still works, and it's got a whole 92k miles on a "rare" MkI?1981 Supra.? :) I've put almost a thousand miles on it so far including a couple of 35 mile trips to a buddy's on the interstate with the factory cruise control set... The IS300 is just the work highway?commuter box so I don't cover the Supras in rock chips. ? Without any tenders, every once in a while I let one go too long and it either ends up needing a jump or a new battery but that's pretty rare. ? Thomas myothersupra -------------- 98TT 6-Speed MkIV 93TT Auto MkIV 92T Auto MkIII 92T?5-Speed MkIII 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type 81 5-Speed MkI 01 E-Shift IS300 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R --- On Wed, 11/18/09, STUART HAGEN wrote: From: STUART HAGEN Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? To: Mkiv@mkiv.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 5:04 PM Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in 2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. ? Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to 600whp in the stock turbo housings. ? OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that 90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe this is showing here and why it is dead. ? Stu Hagen _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From montegobay1 at comcast.net Thu Nov 19 14:23:53 2009 From: montegobay1 at comcast.net (Erven) Date: Thu Nov 19 14:24:36 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? References: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> Message-ID: <5DF0D12F68C04AEE8FA4744061A99283@erven53e0c880e> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all still around. Erven 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square tires ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > Seems very quiet in here!? > > Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > Larry > '94 Silver Supra T > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From p.kaiser77 at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 16:01:26 2009 From: p.kaiser77 at gmail.com (Patrick Kaiser) Date: Thu Nov 19 16:01:39 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <5DF0D12F68C04AEE8FA4744061A99283@erven53e0c880e> References: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> <5DF0D12F68C04AEE8FA4744061A99283@erven53e0c880e> Message-ID: <630E324191C14919A8A998DEB3E6DE73@2JZGTE> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about putting it in in the first place. Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the gas at high revs. The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get rid of it just because of the noise. Patrick 94 BPU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up and running, for I > min I thought we were done.Well my supra still sits in the garage where it > has been since last October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this > year well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as my time > now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me > about it since it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all still around. > > Erven > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square tires > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry M. Bryant" > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> Seems very quiet in here!? >> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> Larry >> '94 Silver Supra T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From andi at airmail.net Thu Nov 19 16:06:07 2009 From: andi at airmail.net (Andi Baritchi) Date: Thu Nov 19 16:06:29 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <630E324191C14919A8A998DEB3E6DE73@2JZGTE> References: <008801ca680d$26a3e820$da72ffce@SupraComputer> <5DF0D12F68C04AEE8FA4744061A99283@erven53e0c880e> <630E324191C14919A8A998DEB3E6DE73@2JZGTE> Message-ID: There is no solution. Deal with the rattle. This message was custom hand-crafted and sent from my phone. On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:01 PM, "Patrick Kaiser" wrote: > Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to > get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing > clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside the > shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots > there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have a > LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about putting > it in in the first place. > > Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont > plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. > > BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox > not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in the > V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. > Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really bad > sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the gas at > high revs. > The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get > rid of it just because of the noise. > > Patrick > 94 BPU > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up and running, >> for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still sits in the >> garage where it has been since last October.Last year I put about >> 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I guess because >> my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell >> it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing >> any money,then again she knows better. >> >> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all still around. >> >> Erven >> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square tires >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > >> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM >> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >> >>> Seems very quiet in here!? >>> >>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >>> >>> Larry >>> '94 Silver Supra T >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From doc_021 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 16:07:36 2009 From: doc_021 at yahoo.com (andy fichter) Date: Thu Nov 19 16:07:59 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <5DF0D12F68C04AEE8FA4744061A99283@erven53e0c880e> Message-ID: <961569.58552.qm@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm in your shoes, Erven. Except for having a kid yet. My new mortgage has my 94tt jacked up in the garage for the last 2 years. And it isn't costing me anything either. Still has the original 79k on it. I was 20 when I got it and survived. It feels like forever ago and priorities change. But I like you can't come to selling it. I will never find another one in as good of shape in my opinion. So I figure I'll let it sit for a couple more years or so yet and when I get a little more financially stable, I'll just dumb however many grand I need to get it in tip top shape. I don't do any mechanical work on cars so it's all about money and knowing who to trust for me. But I still enjoy reading these e-mails. This is only the 2nd time I ever posted. The 1st was about long time battery storage. I guess with my situation now I just don't have anything to contribute. 94tt. white. 6 spd. targa. pol. alum wheels. black leather. (The rarest of the combination's I'm told.) 86 1/2 N/A (Former Supra. Wish I had it back.) Briefly had both at the same time. Best time of my life in the car world at 20 years old Andy --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Erven wrote: > From: Erven > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 3:23 PM > well what can I say,I am happy to see > we are still up and running, for I min I thought we were > done.Well my supra still sits in the garage where it has > been since last October.Last year I put about 500 miles on > it and this year well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 > months old son as my time now.I wish I have the balls to > sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since it's > not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all still > around. > > Erven > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square tires > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > Seems very quiet in here!? > > > > Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > Larry > > '94 Silver Supra T > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From myothersupra at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 16:29:59 2009 From: myothersupra at yahoo.com (Thomas Bradley) Date: Thu Nov 19 16:30:09 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <630E324191C14919A8A998DEB3E6DE73@2JZGTE> Message-ID: <948373.23132.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hey Patrick, Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? ? Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The?Deere" (John Deere Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07?but they stopped giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the wheel... ? I'd heard it in other Supras before?at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years?so at least I knew what I was in for when I?chose it.? The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly?was annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the noise...? Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time?and still?hold up great?after?I go single when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) ? I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped?to keep it quiet?but after a while I just?ignored it and?got to where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and they'd?change their tune as we came to the next red light...? :) ? I'd be leary of any additives in your V160.? Wouldn't want that little seal to swell... Thomas myothersupra -------------- 98TT 6-Speed MkIV 93TT Auto MkIV 92T Auto MkIII 92T?5-Speed MkIII 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type 81 5-Speed MkI 01 E-Shift IS300 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser wrote: From: Patrick Kaiser Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about putting it in in the first place. Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the gas at high revs. The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get rid of it just because of the noise. Patrick 94 BPU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all still around. > > Erven > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square tires > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> Seems very quiet in here!? >> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> Larry >> '94 Silver Supra T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From p.kaiser77 at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 05:14:22 2009 From: p.kaiser77 at gmail.com (Patrick Kaiser) Date: Fri Nov 20 05:14:59 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <948373.23132.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <948373.23132.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8011D7C16CA847F39DDA3EF6252C14B1@2JZGTE> Yeah, they are going to get it repainted. Hopefully the paint tone matches since its silver. Next year Im going to get a new stereo installed and maybe a new Tein suspension and other small things. Still have lots of things in planning. I know what you mean with that tractor sound, but as I said, with increased idle rpms they arent as bad at stop lights. barely noticable. What really bothers me is the sound while driving. It sounds extremely unhealthy. Guess Ill have to decide whats more important to me. I would like to keep the GT feeling of the car. I dont want a racecar thats loud and rough. Patrick 94 BPU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Bradley" To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? Hey Patrick, Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the wheel... I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the noise... Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next red light... :) I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that little seal to swell... Thomas myothersupra -------------- 98TT 6-Speed MkIV 93TT Auto MkIV 92T Auto MkIII 92T 5-Speed MkIII 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type 81 5-Speed MkI 01 E-Shift IS300 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser wrote: From: Patrick Kaiser Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about putting it in in the first place. Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the gas at high revs. The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get rid of it just because of the noise. Patrick 94 BPU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up and running, for I > min I thought we were done.Well my supra still sits in the garage where it > has been since last October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this > year well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as my time > now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me > about it since it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all still around. > > Erven > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square tires > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> Seems very quiet in here!? >> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> Larry >> '94 Silver Supra T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From pwpanas at bellsouth.net Fri Nov 20 11:44:59 2009 From: pwpanas at bellsouth.net (P.W.Panas) Date: Fri Nov 20 11:45:18 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <4B047E6B.8010109@airmail.net> References: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4B047E6B.8010109@airmail.net> Message-ID: <003401ca6a09$2e92c120$8bb84360$@net> ...and I drive mine less often that I see Andi! :P Phil '94 6spd APU+ -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Andi Baritchi Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:08 PM To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? I think I drive lance's supra almost as often as he does. Last time I was in Atlanta we had to buy a battery. just givin ya shit bud... ;) STUART HAGEN wrote: > Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in 2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. > > Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. > Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to 600whp in the stock turbo housings. > > OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that 90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe this is showing here and why it is dead. > > Stu Hagen > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > _______________________________________________ Mkiv mailing list Mkiv@mkiv.com http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From doc_021 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 20 12:29:30 2009 From: doc_021 at yahoo.com (andy fichter) Date: Fri Nov 20 12:29:50 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <948373.23132.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many more years were MKIV's made in Japan? I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? I've been out of the loop for a while. Andy --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > From: Thomas Bradley > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM > Hey Patrick, > Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! > I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > > ? > Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The?Deere" (John Deere > Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless > rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07?but they stopped > giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have > a turn behind the wheel... > ? > I'd heard it in other Supras before?at so many Houston > TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years?so at least I > knew what I was in for when I?chose it.? The occasional > stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly?was > annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier > and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the > noise...? > Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a > looooong time?and still?hold up great?after?I go single > when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still > be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) > ? > I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first > few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped?to keep > it quiet?but after a while I just?ignored it and?got to > where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment > I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and > they'd?change their tune as we came to the next red > light...? :) > ? > I'd be leary of any additives in your V160.? Wouldn't want > that little seal to swell... > > Thomas > myothersupra > -------------- > 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > 93TT Auto MkIV > 92T Auto MkIII > 92T?5-Speed MkIII > 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > 81 5-Speed MkI > 01 E-Shift IS300 > 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > wrote: > From: Patrick Kaiser > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > > > Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only > wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended > with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car > standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new > flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there > scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have > a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > putting it in in the first place. > > Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I > dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every > year. > > BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with > LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would > make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff > that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using > Royal Purple fluid. > Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its > really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or > letting off the gas at high revs. > The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate > to get rid of it just because of the noise. > > Patrick > 94 BPU > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra > still sits in the garage where it has been since last > October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year > well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as > my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey > doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any > money,then again she knows better. > > > > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > still around. > > > > Erven > > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > tires > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > > >> Seems very quiet in here!? > >> > >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >> > >> Larry > >> '94 Silver Supra T > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From p.kaiser77 at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 12:36:51 2009 From: p.kaiser77 at gmail.com (Patrick Kaiser) Date: Fri Nov 20 12:37:21 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <137236756CAB47F198E3CC048CF2015D@2JZGTE> The LF-A is coming out soon. Pricetag somewhere around $350k. They are also working on a new ~200 HP Sportscar. Both designs look ugly IMO. Patrick 94 BPU ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy fichter" To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. > What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all > together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a > comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was > '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many > more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish > Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 > Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an > affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the > negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of > Motor Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those > are the old days already! > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? > I've been out of the loop for a while. > > Andy > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > >> From: Thomas Bradley >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM >> Hey Patrick, >> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? >> >> >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless >> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped >> giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have >> a turn behind the wheel... >> >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston >> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so at least I >> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The occasional >> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly was >> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier >> and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the >> noise... >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a >> looooong time and still hold up great after I go single >> when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still >> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) >> >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first >> few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep >> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it and got to >> where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment >> I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and >> they'd change their tune as we came to the next red >> light... :) >> >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want >> that little seal to swell... >> >> Thomas >> myothersupra >> -------------- >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV >> 93TT Auto MkIV >> 92T Auto MkIII >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >> 81 5-Speed MkI >> 01 E-Shift IS300 >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R >> >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser >> wrote: >> From: Patrick Kaiser >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM >> >> >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only >> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended >> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car >> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new >> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there >> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have >> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about >> putting it in in the first place. >> >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I >> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every >> year. >> >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with >> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would >> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff >> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using >> Royal Purple fluid. >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its >> really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or >> letting off the gas at high revs. >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate >> to get rid of it just because of the noise. >> >> Patrick >> 94 BPU >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >> >> > well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra >> still sits in the garage where it has been since last >> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year >> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as >> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey >> doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any >> money,then again she knows better. >> > >> > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all >> still around. >> > >> > Erven >> > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square >> tires >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" >> >> > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM >> > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> > >> > >> >> Seems very quiet in here!? >> >> >> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> >> >> Larry >> >> '94 Silver Supra T >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mkiv mailing list >> >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mkiv mailing list >> > Mkiv@mkiv.com >> > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From supra at jtanner.org Fri Nov 20 12:48:09 2009 From: supra at jtanner.org (Jim Tanner) Date: Fri Nov 20 12:49:23 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, although the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a hatchback. Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. Jim On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? I've been out of the loop for a while. > > Andy > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > >> From: Thomas Bradley >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM >> Hey Patrick, >> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? >> >> >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless >> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped >> giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have >> a turn behind the wheel... >> >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston >> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so at least I >> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The occasional >> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly was >> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier >> and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the >> noise... >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a >> looooong time and still hold up great after I go single >> when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still >> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) >> >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first >> few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep >> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it and got to >> where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment >> I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and >> they'd change their tune as we came to the next red >> light... :) >> >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want >> that little seal to swell... >> >> Thomas >> myothersupra >> -------------- >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV >> 93TT Auto MkIV >> 92T Auto MkIII >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >> 81 5-Speed MkI >> 01 E-Shift IS300 >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R >> >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser >> wrote: >> From: Patrick Kaiser >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM >> >> >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only >> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended >> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car >> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new >> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there >> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have >> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about >> putting it in in the first place. >> >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I >> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every >> year. >> >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with >> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would >> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff >> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using >> Royal Purple fluid. >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its >> really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or >> letting off the gas at high revs. >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate >> to get rid of it just because of the noise. >> >> Patrick >> 94 BPU >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >> >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra >> still sits in the garage where it has been since last >> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year >> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as >> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey >> doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any >> money,then again she knows better. >>> >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all >> still around. >>> >>> Erven >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square >> tires >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" >> >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>> >>> >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? >>>> >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >>>> >>>> Larry >>>> '94 Silver Supra T >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mkiv mailing list >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From bobachris at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 13:10:24 2009 From: bobachris at gmail.com (Chris Bobadilla) Date: Fri Nov 20 13:10:54 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <137236756CAB47F198E3CC048CF2015D@2JZGTE> References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <137236756CAB47F198E3CC048CF2015D@2JZGTE> Message-ID: The LF-A is badged a Lexus and is being placed on level to compete with the likes of Ferrari. Toyota has the FT-86 which is more along the lines of the AE86 Corolla from the 80's. http://jalopnik.com/5375233/toyota-ft+86-concept-behold-the-new-ae86 This is to compete with the 350z, Genesis, etc. and has a boxer engine while being a FR(Front Engine, rear drive) layout. The Supra was last sold as a 98 in the US, but in Japan was sold until July 2002. Chris On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Kaiser wrote: > The LF-A is coming out soon. Pricetag somewhere around $350k. > They are also working on a new ~200 HP Sportscar. > Both designs look ugly IMO. > > Patrick > 94 BPU > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy fichter" > > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. >> What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all >> together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a >> comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was >> '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many >> more years were MKIV's made in Japan? >> >> I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish >> Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 >> Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an affordable >> sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the negative image of >> a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner >> for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! >> >> Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? >> I've been out of the loop for a while. >> >> Andy >> >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: >> >> From: Thomas Bradley >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM >>> Hey Patrick, >>> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! >>> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? >>> >>> >>> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere >>> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless >>> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped >>> giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have >>> a turn behind the wheel... >>> >>> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston >>> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so at least I >>> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The occasional >>> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly was >>> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier >>> and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the >>> noise... >>> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a >>> looooong time and still hold up great after I go single >>> when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still >>> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) >>> >>> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first >>> few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep >>> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it and got to >>> where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment >>> I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and >>> they'd change their tune as we came to the next red >>> light... :) >>> >>> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want >>> that little seal to swell... >>> >>> Thomas >>> myothersupra >>> -------------- >>> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV >>> 93TT Auto MkIV >>> 92T Auto MkIII >>> 92T 5-Speed MkIII >>> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >>> 81 5-Speed MkI >>> 01 E-Shift IS300 >>> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R >>> >>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser >>> wrote: >>> From: Patrick Kaiser >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM >>> >>> >>> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only >>> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended >>> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car >>> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new >>> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there >>> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have >>> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about >>> putting it in in the first place. >>> >>> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I >>> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every >>> year. >>> >>> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with >>> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would >>> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff >>> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using >>> Royal Purple fluid. >>> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its >>> really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or >>> letting off the gas at high revs. >>> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate >>> to get rid of it just because of the noise. >>> >>> Patrick >>> 94 BPU >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>> >>> >>> > well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up >>> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra >>> still sits in the garage where it has been since last >>> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year >>> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as >>> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey >>> doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any >>> money,then again she knows better. >>> > >>> > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all >>> still around. >>> > >>> > Erven >>> > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square >>> tires >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" >>> >>> > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM >>> > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >>> > >>> > >>> >> Seems very quiet in here!? >>> >> >>> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >>> >> >>> >> Larry >>> >> '94 Silver Supra T >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Mkiv mailing list >>> >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Mkiv mailing list >>> > Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mkiv mailing list >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From doc_021 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 20 13:26:02 2009 From: doc_021 at yahoo.com (andy fichter) Date: Fri Nov 20 13:26:26 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14301.17438.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Saw the link for the ft 86. Looks ok to me in some angles, not so hot in others. So unlike bringing back the Camaro, Challenger etc., Toyota doesn't look like they have any intentions of bringing back the Supra any time soon. Maybe the LF-A was a reason for the rumors I heard a while back that the new new Supra would be a Lexus instead. Or at least have a Lexus engine doing away w/ the tt straight 6. I don't know. I did hear back then that it would be much much more expensive. Any differences between a '98 and 2002 Japanese model? Or did they just sell the same car for a few extra years? I wonder how hard it would be to get one into this country. Kind of like what was going on w/ the Skyline for a while. Andy '94tt --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Chris Bobadilla wrote: > From: Chris Bobadilla > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:10 PM > The LF-A is badged a Lexus and is > being placed on level to compete with the > likes of Ferrari. > Toyota has the FT-86 which is more along the lines of the > AE86 Corolla from > the 80's. > http://jalopnik.com/5375233/toyota-ft+86-concept-behold-the-new-ae86 > > This is to compete with the 350z, Genesis, etc. and has a > boxer engine while > being a FR(Front Engine, rear drive) layout. > The Supra was last sold as a 98 in the US, but in Japan was > sold until July > 2002. > > Chris > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Kaiser wrote: > > > The LF-A is coming out soon. Pricetag somewhere around > $350k. > > They are also working on a new ~200 HP Sportscar. > > Both designs look ugly IMO. > > > > Patrick > > 94 BPU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy fichter" > > > > > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:29 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > > > > >? Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go > through. Long story short. > >> What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? > Something else all > >> together? Rumors have been out there for into the > years now about a > >> comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, > but still nothing. Was > >> '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to > the US? If not, how many > >> more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > >> > >> I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see > one, (rarely) I just wish > >> Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me > wrong. I love my '99 4 > >> Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much > success again w/ an affordable > >> sports car w/ super car performance. Especially > now w/ the negative image of > >> a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days > of Motor Trend's winner > >> for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those > are the old days already! > >> > >> Does anyone really know what's going on w/ > Toyota's sports car future? > >> I've been out of the loop for a while. > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley > wrote: > >> > >>? From: Thomas Bradley > >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM > >>> Hey Patrick, > >>> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! > >>> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint > damage for you? > >>> > >>> > >>> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" > (John Deere > >>> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in > the strapless > >>> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they > stopped > >>> giving me a hard time about it after I let > each of them have > >>> a turn behind the wheel... > >>> > >>> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many > Houston > >>> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so > at least I > >>> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The > occasional > >>> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral > too quickly was > >>> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker > and easier > >>> and feels so much more responsive that I can > live with the > >>> noise... > >>> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should > last me a > >>> looooong time and still hold up great after I > go single > >>> when my factory twins finally get tired, which > should still > >>> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" > now... :) > >>> > >>> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for > the first > >>> few months and would hold the pedal in when > stopped to keep > >>> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it > and got to > >>> where if someone in traffic actually made a > negative comment > >>> I'd usually launch agressively off the green > light and > >>> they'd change their tune as we came to the > next red > >>> light... :) > >>> > >>> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. > Wouldn't want > >>> that little seal to swell... > >>> > >>> Thomas > >>> myothersupra > >>> -------------- > >>> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > >>> 93TT Auto MkIV > >>> 92T Auto MkIII > >>> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > >>> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > >>> 81 5-Speed MkI > >>> 01 E-Shift IS300 > >>> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > >>> > >>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > >>> wrote: > >>> From: Patrick Kaiser > >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started > that I only > >>> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD > installed. Ended > >>> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, > my car > >>> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for > a new > >>> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots > there > >>> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. > And now I have > >>> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really > feel bad about > >>> putting it in in the first place. > >>> > >>> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends > though. And I > >>> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like > 3-4k miles every > >>> year. > >>> > >>> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy > 6spd with > >>> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some > fluid that would > >>> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its > that stuff > >>> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right > now Im using > >>> Royal Purple fluid. > >>> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 > rpm, but its > >>> really bad sometimes while driving slow in > high gears or > >>> letting off the gas at high revs. > >>> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so > I would hate > >>> to get rid of it just because of the noise. > >>> > >>> Patrick > >>> 94 BPU > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > > >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> > >>> > >>> > well what can I say,I am happy to see we > are still up > >>> and running, for I min I thought we were > done.Well my supra > >>> still sits in the garage where it has been > since last > >>> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it > and this year > >>> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 > months old son as > >>> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell > it,but the wifey > >>> doesn't bother me about it since it's not > costing any > >>> money,then again she knows better. > >>> > > >>> > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see > we are all > >>> still around. > >>> > > >>> > Erven > >>> > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage > with square > >>> tires > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry > M. Bryant" > >>> > >>> > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing > List'" > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 > AM > >>> > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> Seems very quiet in here!? > >>> >> > >>> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >>> >> > >>> >> Larry > >>> >> '94 Silver Supra T > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Mkiv mailing list > >>> >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Mkiv mailing list > >>> > Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From tvolkman at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 14:20:22 2009 From: tvolkman at gmail.com (Ted Volkman) Date: Fri Nov 20 14:20:57 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <14301.17438.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <14301.17438.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a7f01df0911201220w34db753fwe486ae1cababc146@mail.gmail.com> > Any differences between a '98 and 2002 Japanese model? VVT-i added to the 2jzgte is the biggest. Revised ratios on the 6 speed (v161 replaced the v160) and a different final drive. -- ted 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem 93t mr2 gen3 3sgte, t3/t4, 264s, aem 88sc mr2 98 honda vfr800 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM, andy fichter wrote: > Saw the link for the ft 86. Looks ok to me in some angles, not so hot in others. So unlike bringing back the Camaro, Challenger etc., Toyota doesn't look like they have any intentions of bringing back the Supra any time soon. Maybe the LF-A was a reason for the rumors I heard a while back that the new new Supra would be a Lexus instead. Or at least have a Lexus engine doing away w/ the tt straight 6. I don't know. I did hear back then that it would be much much more expensive. > > Any differences between a '98 and 2002 Japanese model? Or did they just sell the same car for a few extra years? I wonder how hard it would be to get one into this country. Kind of like what was going on w/ the Skyline for a while. > > Andy > '94tt > > > > --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Chris Bobadilla wrote: > >> From: Chris Bobadilla >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:10 PM >> The LF-A is badged a Lexus and is >> being placed on level to compete with the >> likes of Ferrari. >> Toyota has the FT-86 which is more along the lines of the >> AE86 Corolla from >> the 80's. >> http://jalopnik.com/5375233/toyota-ft+86-concept-behold-the-new-ae86 >> >> This is to compete with the 350z, Genesis, etc. and has a >> boxer engine while >> being a FR(Front Engine, rear drive) layout. >> The Supra was last sold as a 98 in the US, but in Japan was >> sold until July >> 2002. >> >> Chris >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Kaiser wrote: >> >> > The LF-A is coming out soon. Pricetag somewhere around >> $350k. >> > They are also working on a new ~200 HP Sportscar. >> > Both designs look ugly IMO. >> > >> > Patrick >> > 94 BPU >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy fichter" >> >> > >> > To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:29 PM >> > >> > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> > >> > >> >? Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go >> through. Long story short. >> >> What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? >> Something else all >> >> together? Rumors have been out there for into the >> years now about a >> >> comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, >> but still nothing. Was >> >> '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to >> the US? If not, how many >> >> more years were MKIV's made in Japan? >> >> >> >> I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see >> one, (rarely) I just wish >> >> Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me >> wrong. I love my '99 4 >> >> Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much >> success again w/ an affordable >> >> sports car w/ super car performance. Especially >> now w/ the negative image of >> >> a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days >> of Motor Trend's winner >> >> for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those >> are the old days already! >> >> >> >> Does anyone really know what's going on w/ >> Toyota's sports car future? >> >> I've been out of the loop for a while. >> >> >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley >> wrote: >> >> >> >>? From: Thomas Bradley >> >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> >> >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM >> >>> Hey Patrick, >> >>> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! >> >>> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint >> damage for you? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" >> (John Deere >> >>> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in >> the strapless >> >>> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they >> stopped >> >>> giving me a hard time about it after I let >> each of them have >> >>> a turn behind the wheel... >> >>> >> >>> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many >> Houston >> >>> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so >> at least I >> >>> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The >> occasional >> >>> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral >> too quickly was >> >>> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker >> and easier >> >>> and feels so much more responsive that I can >> live with the >> >>> noise... >> >>> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should >> last me a >> >>> looooong time and still hold up great after I >> go single >> >>> when my factory twins finally get tired, which >> should still >> >>> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" >> now... :) >> >>> >> >>> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for >> the first >> >>> few months and would hold the pedal in when >> stopped to keep >> >>> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it >> and got to >> >>> where if someone in traffic actually made a >> negative comment >> >>> I'd usually launch agressively off the green >> light and >> >>> they'd change their tune as we came to the >> next red >> >>> light... :) >> >>> >> >>> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. >> Wouldn't want >> >>> that little seal to swell... >> >>> >> >>> Thomas >> >>> myothersupra >> >>> -------------- >> >>> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV >> >>> 93TT Auto MkIV >> >>> 92T Auto MkIII >> >>> 92T 5-Speed MkIII >> >>> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >> >>> 81 5-Speed MkI >> >>> 01 E-Shift IS300 >> >>> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R >> >>> >> >>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser >> >>> wrote: >> >>> From: Patrick Kaiser >> >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> >> >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started >> that I only >> >>> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD >> installed. Ended >> >>> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, >> my car >> >>> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for >> a new >> >>> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots >> there >> >>> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. >> And now I have >> >>> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really >> feel bad about >> >>> putting it in in the first place. >> >>> >> >>> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends >> though. And I >> >>> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like >> 3-4k miles every >> >>> year. >> >>> >> >>> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy >> 6spd with >> >>> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some >> fluid that would >> >>> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its >> that stuff >> >>> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right >> now Im using >> >>> Royal Purple fluid. >> >>> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 >> rpm, but its >> >>> really bad sometimes while driving slow in >> high gears or >> >>> letting off the gas at high revs. >> >>> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so >> I would hate >> >>> to get rid of it just because of the noise. >> >>> >> >>> Patrick >> >>> 94 BPU >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" >> >> >>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" >> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > well what can I say,I am happy to see we >> are still up >> >>> and running, for I min I thought we were >> done.Well my supra >> >>> still sits in the garage where it has been >> since last >> >>> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it >> and this year >> >>> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 >> months old son as >> >>> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell >> it,but the wifey >> >>> doesn't bother me about it since it's not >> costing any >> >>> money,then again she knows better. >> >>> > >> >>> > Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see >> we are all >> >>> still around. >> >>> > >> >>> > Erven >> >>> > 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage >> with square >> >>> tires >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry >> M. Bryant" >> >>> >> >>> > To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing >> List'" >> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 >> AM >> >>> > Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> Seems very quiet in here!? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Larry >> >>> >> '94 Silver Supra T >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> Mkiv mailing list >> >>> >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> >>> >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Mkiv mailing list >> >>> > Mkiv@mkiv.com >> >>> > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Mkiv mailing list >> >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Mkiv mailing list >> >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mkiv mailing list >> >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mkiv mailing list >> > Mkiv@mkiv.com >> > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Mkiv mailing list >> Mkiv@mkiv.com >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > From stephen at internetmediastudio.com Fri Nov 20 19:30:05 2009 From: stephen at internetmediastudio.com (Stephen Sidman) Date: Fri Nov 20 19:30:38 2009 Subject: [mkiv] RE: Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <200911201800.nAKI04Sp004191@mkiv.com> References: <200911201800.nAKI04Sp004191@mkiv.com> Message-ID: <1B06FD6973044ECA9F31EC8813D94B6C@IMS> I still read the email list, and drive my 96 TT every day. I just don't post that often, and I stay off SupraForums.com ... too much noise & BS. This weekend I get to R&R my starter (click click of death), just ordered the parts kit from Mark at Vancouver Toyota to rebuild the solenoid. Read a couple write ups online, and it looks like I'm in for tons of fun. Bill Perkins: wanna come help? Hahaha! From supra94tt at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 20:45:19 2009 From: supra94tt at gmail.com (v4vendetta) Date: Fri Nov 20 20:46:06 2009 Subject: [mkiv] RE: Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <1B06FD6973044ECA9F31EC8813D94B6C@IMS> References: <200911201800.nAKI04Sp004191@mkiv.com> <1B06FD6973044ECA9F31EC8813D94B6C@IMS> Message-ID: <6df545490911201845x595fa9a8jc3be16b2b5e964db@mail.gmail.com> It is very easy install if you're doing the whole thing, just r&r, starter is like $140 here in zoo jersey. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Stephen Sidman wrote: > > I still read the email list, and drive my 96 TT every day. I just don't post > that often, and I stay off SupraForums.com ... too much noise & BS. > > This weekend I get to R&R my starter (click click of death), just ordered > the parts kit from Mark at Vancouver Toyota to rebuild the solenoid. Read a > couple write ups online, and it looks like I'm in for tons of fun. > > Bill Perkins: wanna come help? Hahaha! > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > -- ?Yesterday the devil came right here. And it still smells of sulfur today.? Yesterday the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil came here talking as if he owned the world. Truly As the owner of the world. We could call a psychiatrist to analyze the president of the United States. What type of democracy do you impose with marines and bombs?" Hugo Chavez. From kzuke at charter.net Sat Nov 21 03:59:11 2009 From: kzuke at charter.net (KZuke) Date: Sat Nov 21 03:59:47 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <269810.426.qm@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <472070.55168.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <269810.426.qm@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20091121015505.050df0a0@charter.net> Pretty awesome! Though I owned an '81 Celica GT back in college, the MKII's are what made me first start liking Supras. After I started making enough money, I bought an MKIII, which I thought was a pretty awesome car. Had so many little details, like heated mirrors, power seats, 4-wheel disc, 4-valve DOHC, that others didn't have in that era. The MKIV was inevitable after it came out being such an amazing performer. Mine's BPU. I'm pretty damn impressed with your love of Supras! Regards, -Kevin At 11:10 AM 11/19/2009, you wrote: >I drove my 93TT automatic yesterday, the day before, the day before >that, and so on for about the past 2 weeks, unfortunately with a for >sale sign in the window... :( >I bought it at 120k miles with fubar smoking twins, took my time >finding a nice set of U.S. twins, a GReddy 3-row FMIC kit, BCC, and >full exhaust to BPU the stock Supra, finally swapped the twins and >serviced EVERYTHING right before TX2K9, put over 5k miles on it in >like 3 weeks, and the other 2,500 have been added at random over the >past 5 months... > >My 98TT 6-speed typically gets about 5-8k added to the odometer a >year since I bought it, most of which seems to happen over the weeks >preceeding, the days during, and a few weeks following the annual >trek to Houston where we inevitably break something outside my >budget either at the meet or shortly after, and it always drives the >350+ miles home on its' own with whatever's broken but this year it >seemed fine for a change until the diff got really angry on my way >home from work the week after the Houston meet and it's still >waiting for me to take it apart... > >One of the Turbo MkIII's is still waiting on a back-ordered head >gasket, the other was a full interior roller waiting on a >motor/tranny which I have in a donor and haven't had the time to >pull yet, and the Katrina flood victim MkIII that I've owned over 15 >years is still waiting on a full restoration... > >The MkII finally decided that popping up the headlights is too much >work and I hate driving during the day with them manually popped up >so that car went from my daily errand car to my late night taco bell >vehicle and home-depot cargo truck 'till I figure out why the relay >still clicks but the headlight motors don't energize anymore... > >The MkI is still waiting on the duplicate title since the original >owner finally got the two vin typo's corrected (B to 8, 4 to L) that >the illinois dmv did when she got her dead husband's name removed, >then she dropped the corrected title in the mail to me with no >tracking or certification and of course it never got here, months >went by, I didn't know she'd mailed it, and she didn't know I never >got it... But she's the original owner, it's got every option I >would've chosen, it's totally stock, everything but the a/c >compressor still works, and it's got a whole 92k miles on a "rare" >MkI 1981 Supra. :) >I've put almost a thousand miles on it so far including a couple of >35 mile trips to a buddy's on the interstate with the factory cruise >control set... > >The IS300 is just the work highway commuter box so I don't cover the >Supras in rock chips. > >Without any tenders, every once in a while I let one go too long and >it either ends up needing a jump or a new battery but that's pretty rare. > > >Thomas >myothersupra >-------------- >98TT 6-Speed MkIV >93TT Auto MkIV >92T Auto MkIII >92T 5-Speed MkIII >84 5-Speed MkII P-Type >81 5-Speed MkI >01 E-Shift IS300 >01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > >--- On Wed, 11/18/09, STUART HAGEN wrote: > >From: STUART HAGEN >Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? >To: Mkiv@mkiv.com >Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 5:04 PM > > >Ya this list has got real quite over the years. I remember in >2001-2003 that there were several every day. We all must be getting >older and the newer generation isnt seeing this. > >Just installed a new Stage 1 head with 264's LW Cam buckets, stiffer springs. >Installed new GT28 Hybrid turbo's, new 660 injectors, AE FPR. So now >I need to get it tuned for this new found power. Hoping to get to >600whp in the stock turbo housings. > >OT...there is a thread that started a month or so ago in supraforums >on how often people drive there Supra's. I was really surprised that >90% of posters said they basically dont drive them anymore. Well, >under 500 miles a year. One guy hadnt driven his is 2 years~! Maybe >this is showing here and why it is dead. > >Stu Hagen >_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From batgirll92t at hotmail.com Sat Nov 21 20:35:04 2009 From: batgirll92t at hotmail.com (jami b) Date: Sat Nov 21 20:35:39 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> Message-ID: This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? Jami > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > From: supra@jtanner.org > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, although the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a hatchback. > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > Jim > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > Andy > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM > >> Hey Patrick, > >> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > >> > >> > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless > >> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped > >> giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have > >> a turn behind the wheel... > >> > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston > >> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so at least I > >> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The occasional > >> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly was > >> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier > >> and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the > >> noise... > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a > >> looooong time and still hold up great after I go single > >> when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still > >> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) > >> > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first > >> few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep > >> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it and got to > >> where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment > >> I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and > >> they'd change their tune as we came to the next red > >> light... :) > >> > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want > >> that little seal to swell... > >> > >> Thomas > >> myothersupra > >> -------------- > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > >> 92T Auto MkIII > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > >> > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > >> wrote: > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > >> > >> > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only > >> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended > >> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car > >> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new > >> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there > >> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have > >> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > >> putting it in in the first place. > >> > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I > >> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every > >> year. > >> > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with > >> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would > >> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff > >> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using > >> Royal Purple fluid. > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its > >> really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or > >> letting off the gas at high revs. > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate > >> to get rid of it just because of the noise. > >> > >> Patrick > >> 94 BPU > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> > >> > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra > >> still sits in the garage where it has been since last > >> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year > >> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as > >> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey > >> doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any > >> money,then again she knows better. > >>> > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > >> still around. > >>> > >>> Erven > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > >> tires > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > >> > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> > >>> > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > >>>> > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >>>> > >>>> Larry > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From kzuke at charter.net Sat Nov 21 21:19:04 2009 From: kzuke at charter.net (KZuke) Date: Sat Nov 21 21:19:08 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20091121191844.050979b8@charter.net> Agreed, but please don't feed the Troll. -Zuke At 06:35 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote: >This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... > >Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? > > > >Jami > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > From: supra@jtanner.org > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and > am still really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP > 3.0L engine, although the turbos are now parallel instead of > sequential and the engine is an aluminum block instead of an iron > boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, suspension is better, steering > feel/weight are better, front seats are more supportive, rear > seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been toned > down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a hatchback. > > > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long > story short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? > Something else all together? Rumors have been out there for into > the years now about a comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the > web, but still nothing. Was '98 the last year ever? Or just the > last year to the US? If not, how many more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I > just wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. > I love my '99 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much > success again w/ an affordable sports car w/ super car performance. > Especially now w/ the negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. > Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner for best bang for > your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! > > > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car > future? I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM > > >> Hey Patrick, > > >> Sorry to hear of your rough Supra year! > > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > > >> > > >> > > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless > > >> rps cc twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped > > >> giving me a hard time about it after I let each of them have > > >> a turn behind the wheel... > > >> > > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston > > >> TX2K_ Supra Nationals meets over the years so at least I > > >> knew what I was in for when I chose it. The occasional > > >> stalling coming off hard pulls into neutral too quickly was > > >> annoying at first but it rev's so much quicker and easier > > >> and feels so much more responsive that I can live with the > > >> noise... > > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a > > >> looooong time and still hold up great after I go single > > >> when my factory twins finally get tired, which should still > > >> be a while yet at just 78k on "The Deere" now... :) > > >> > > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first > > >> few months and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep > > >> it quiet but after a while I just ignored it and got to > > >> where if someone in traffic actually made a negative comment > > >> I'd usually launch agressively off the green light and > > >> they'd change their tune as we came to the next red > > >> light... :) > > >> > > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want > > >> that little seal to swell... > > >> > > >> Thomas > > >> myothersupra > > >> -------------- > > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > > >> 92T Auto MkIII > > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > > >> > > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > > >> wrote: > > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > > >> > > >> > > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only > > >> wanted to get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended > > >> with a rubbing clutch that was out of balance, my car > > >> standing 3 months outside the shop waiting for a new > > >> flywheel and clutch disc and then the idiots there > > >> scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now I have > > >> a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > > >> putting it in in the first place. > > >> > > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I > > >> dont plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every > > >> year. > > >> > > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with > > >> LWFW? The mechanic said they could add some fluid that would > > >> make the gearbox not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff > > >> that causes problems in the V160, right? Right now Im using > > >> Royal Purple fluid. > > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its > > >> really bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or > > >> letting off the gas at high revs. > > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate > > >> to get rid of it just because of the noise. > > >> > > >> Patrick > > >> 94 BPU > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >> > > >> > > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra > > >> still sits in the garage where it has been since last > > >> October.Last year I put about 500 miles on it and this year > > >> well about 150 miles,I guess because my 6 months old son as > > >> my time now.I wish I have the balls to sell it,but the wifey > > >> doesn't bother me about it since it's not costing any > > >> money,then again she knows better. > > >>> > > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > > >> still around. > > >>> > > >>> Erven > > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > > >> tires > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > > >> > > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > > >>>> > > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > > >>>> > > >>>> Larry > > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Mkiv mailing list > > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mkiv mailing list > > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mkiv mailing list > > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. >http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2_______________________________________________ >Mkiv mailing list >Mkiv@mkiv.com >http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv From stephen at internetmediastudio.com Sat Nov 21 22:06:43 2009 From: stephen at internetmediastudio.com (Stephen Sidman) Date: Sat Nov 21 22:07:08 2009 Subject: [mkiv] RE: Mkiv Digest, Vol 79, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <200911211800.nALI045o009323@mkiv.com> References: <200911211800.nALI045o009323@mkiv.com> Message-ID: Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:45:19 -0500 From: v4vendetta Subject: Re: [mkiv] RE: Hello - anyone home? To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" Message-ID: <6df545490911201845x595fa9a8jc3be16b2b5e964db@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 It is very easy install if you're doing the whole thing, just r&r, starter is like $140 here in zoo jersey. ==================================================================== I'm waiting for the solenoid rebuild kit to arrive from Vancouver Toyota. I'll remove the starter, gut the solenoid and install the new parts. I know eventually with the "click click" bs, it's going to fail on me. Mark @ Vancouver charged me$45.00 for the kit, and I'll know my starter is fixed with good parts. Rebuilt starters, like alternators have always given me grief a year later, and I don't trust them. I found rebuild kits on eBay for around $25.00 but from what I hear, the parts are usually cheap Chinese junk. I'll pass :) Stephen From supratt at cinci.rr.com Sat Nov 21 22:08:20 2009 From: supratt at cinci.rr.com (Aaron Williams) Date: Sat Nov 21 22:08:38 2009 Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? In-Reply-To: References: <77814.76500.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <8B4B84E5-7820-42D9-B74F-0D196AF8DDB7@jtanner.org> Message-ID: Oh yeah, I test drove one of those last year along with my wife, I was the passenger. Nice chick car. Even my a 5'2" wife thought it was little too small and cute..... Good luck with that. Aaron W. -----Original Message----- From: mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces@mkiv.com] On Behalf Of jami b Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM To: mkiv@mkiv.com Subject: RE: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? This is the dumbest post I wasted time reading in awhile.... Can you spell T-R-A-I-T-O-R....? Jami > Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > From: supra@jtanner.org > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:48:09 -0500 > To: mkiv@mkiv.com > > I've been driving a MKV Supra for a little under a year now, and am still really enjoying it. It has a similar twin-turbo 300 HP 3.0L engine, although the turbos are now parallel instead of sequential and the engine is an aluminum block instead of an iron boat anchor. Comes with 18" wheels, suspension is better, steering feel/weight are better, front seats are more supportive, rear seats/legroom are improved. The exterior styling has been toned down, but visibility is better since it's a coupe instead of a hatchback. > > Oh, and it's made by BMW. BMW 135i--the new Supra. > > Jim > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:29 PM, andy fichter wrote: > > > Tried to reply before but I guess it didn't go through. Long story short. What's the real story w/ the new Supra? MKV Supra? Something else all together? Rumors have been out there for into the years now about a comeback. Saw alleged prototype photos on the web, but still nothing. Was '98 the last year ever? Or just the last year to the US? If not, how many more years were MKIV's made in Japan? > > > > I love the new Nissan GTR. But every time I see one, (rarely) I just wish Toyota would get back into that game. Don't get me wrong. I love my '99 4 Runner SR5, but Toyota can have just as much success again w/ an affordable sports car w/ super car performance. Especially now w/ the negative image of a gas guzzling truck/SUV. Bring back the old days of Motor Trend's winner for best bang for your buck! I can't believe those are the old days already! > > > > Does anyone really know what's going on w/ Toyota's sports car future? I've been out of the loop for a while. > > > > Andy > > > > --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Thomas Bradley wrote: > > > >> From: Thomas Bradley > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:29 PM Hey Patrick, Sorry to > >> hear of your rough Supra year! > >> I hope they at least fixed the bumper paint damage for you? > >> > >> > >> Friends have nicknamed my Jade 98 "The Deere" (John Deere > >> Tractors) because of the noise since I put in the strapless rps cc > >> twin-disc and lwfw back in '07 but they stopped giving me a hard > >> time about it after I let each of them have a turn behind the > >> wheel... > >> > >> I'd heard it in other Supras before at so many Houston TX2K_ Supra > >> Nationals meets over the years so at least I knew what I was in for > >> when I chose it. The occasional stalling coming off hard pulls into > >> neutral too quickly was annoying at first but it rev's so much > >> quicker and easier and feels so much more responsive that I can > >> live with the noise... > >> Plus on stock twins the cc twin-disc should last me a looooong time > >> and still hold up great after I go single when my factory twins > >> finally get tired, which should still be a while yet at just 78k on > >> "The Deere" now... :) > >> > >> I used to be embarrassed at traffic lights for the first few months > >> and would hold the pedal in when stopped to keep it quiet but after > >> a while I just ignored it and got to where if someone in traffic > >> actually made a negative comment I'd usually launch agressively off > >> the green light and they'd change their tune as we came to the next > >> red light... :) > >> > >> I'd be leary of any additives in your V160. Wouldn't want that > >> little seal to swell... > >> > >> Thomas > >> myothersupra > >> -------------- > >> 98TT 6-Speed MkIV > >> 93TT Auto MkIV > >> 92T Auto MkIII > >> 92T 5-Speed MkIII > >> 84 5-Speed MkII P-Type > >> 81 5-Speed MkI > >> 01 E-Shift IS300 > >> 01 5-Speed ZRX-1200R > >> > >> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Patrick Kaiser > >> wrote: > >> From: Patrick Kaiser > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM > >> > >> > >> Was a horrible year for my Supra. All started that I only wanted to > >> get my clutch changed and an LSD installed. Ended with a rubbing > >> clutch that was out of balance, my car standing 3 months outside > >> the shop waiting for a new flywheel and clutch disc and then the > >> idiots there scratching and cracking my rear bumper paint. And now > >> I have a LWFW in there that is so loud that I really feel bad about > >> putting it in in the first place. > >> > >> Anyways, I still drive it. Mostly on weekends though. And I dont > >> plan on selling it. I think I get like 3-4k miles every year. > >> > >> BTW, you guys have any solution for the noisy 6spd with LWFW? The > >> mechanic said they could add some fluid that would make the gearbox > >> not as noisy, but I guess its that stuff that causes problems in > >> the V160, right? Right now Im using Royal Purple fluid. > >> Idle noise isnt so bad if I bump it to ~1200 rpm, but its really > >> bad sometimes while driving slow in high gears or letting off the > >> gas at high revs. > >> The car feels far more agile with the LWFW, so I would hate to get > >> rid of it just because of the noise. > >> > >> Patrick > >> 94 BPU > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erven" > >> > >> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" > >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >> > >> > >>> well what can I say,I am happy to see we are still up > >> and running, for I min I thought we were done.Well my supra still > >> sits in the garage where it has been since last October.Last year I > >> put about 500 miles on it and this year well about 150 miles,I > >> guess because my 6 months old son as my time now.I wish I have the > >> balls to sell it,but the wifey doesn't bother me about it since > >> it's not costing any money,then again she knows better. > >>> > >>> Happy thanksgiving everyone,good to see we are all > >> still around. > >>> > >>> Erven > >>> 98 rsp all done up sitting in the garage with square > >> tires > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry M. Bryant" > >> > >>> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 AM > >>> Subject: [mkiv] Hello - anyone home? > >>> > >>> > >>>> Seems very quiet in here!? > >>>> > >>>> Well, Happy Thanksgiving! > >>>> > >>>> Larry > >>>> '94 Silver Supra T > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Mkiv mailing list > >>>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mkiv mailing list > >>> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >>> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mkiv mailing list > >> Mkiv@mkiv.com > >> http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mkiv mailing list > > Mkiv@mkiv.com > > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mkiv mailing list > Mkiv@mkiv.com > http://www.mkiv.com/mailman/listinfo/mkiv _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. 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