[mkiv] Lost substantial amount of power

Mon Oct 22 10:05:19 CDT 2007

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jake" <JakeGrafton at gmx.de>
To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" <mkiv at mkiv.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [mkiv] Lost substantial amount of power

> Honestly I cant really believe ambient temperature alone makes such a huge 
> difference.
> As I said, I noticed powerloss on hot days before (and noticing a power 
> gain at night), but it was never that bad. And I also thought it was 
> mostly because of my clogged up intercooler (which got changed now).
> It really drives me insane to see less power with a not-clogged-up 
> intercooler.
>
> So I really dont know what to do. I didnt reset the ECU, so its not that. 
> Low octane fuel is not the problem either. I dont see overheating either. 
> Oil temps are fine.
> I even tried running with the stock air box again, because I thought my 
> air filter is sucking too much warm air. Didnt help either.
>
> Youre talking about a Methanol/Water injection? How do those work?
>
> Jake
> 94TT 6SPD
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Cribb" <johnacribb at yahoo.com>
> To: "'The MKIV.com National Mailing List'" <mkiv at mkiv.com>
> Sent: Monday, 22 October, 2007 14:14
> Subject: RE: [mkiv] Lost substantial amount of power
>
>
>> Jake, if you're sure it's only the ambient temperature change that was
>> responsible for the power increase, then you might want to consider a M/W
>> injection kit to keep your intake air temps down.
>>
>> Other things that could have affected the power are retarded timing due 
>> to
>> low octane fuel or overheating - perhaps with your other work you've 
>> reset
>> the ECU and it's starting over again with fresh learned settings?
>>
>> But it's true, our motors definitely like the cool weather better than 
>> the
>> hot.
>>
>> John
>> '97 APU
>> '94 BPU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mkiv-bounces at mkiv.com [mailto:mkiv-bounces at mkiv.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Jake
>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 5:38 AM
>> To: The MKIV.com National Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Lost substantial amount of power
>>
>>
>> Alright, I think I found the cause for power loss on my Supra. As someone
>> already suggested, its the ambient temperature, how wierd it may
>> sound.
>> I was normally driving at 77 to 86F when I had low power, but yesterday I
>> drove at about 42-50F. The difference was HUGE. The car pulled like mad
>> again, so that I actually got a little scared at times, since I wasnt 
>> used
>> to so much power anymore. I would guess it was at least 30-40 HP more 
>> than
>> before.
>> Ive had my car for 8 years now, and also noticed power loss on very hot
>> weater before, but it was never this bad.
>>
>> Now, I changed my stock intercooler just before I got that power loss,
>> because my old one was completely clogged up with insects, dirt, etc. I
>> bought a used one, which still looked very good. So actually I should 
>> have
>> much less problems with high intake temperature.
>> But why is it worse now? :(
>>
>> Is it really normal to lose so much power to ambient temperature? What 
>> can I
>>
>> do to counter it?
>> A FMIC would be the last option for me, since I would have to get a 
>> custom
>> one done due to the european active spoiler taking up space.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jake
>> 94TT 6SPD
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "George Datuashvili" <gdatuashvili at gmail.com>
>> To: "The MKIV.com National Mailing List" <mkiv at mkiv.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 September, 2007 21:16
>> Subject: Re: [mkiv] Lost substantial amount of power
>>
>>
>>> I don't think it's old cat.
>>> When was the lat time you changed the fuel filter?
>>>
>>> Some more ideas:
>>> - spark plugs
>>> - coil packs
>>> - bad fuel pump
>>> - bad fuel (try different gas station & brand)
>>> - boost leak (where exactly is your sensor mounted that shows 1.1bar?)
>>> - conspiracy theory (porschas you raced have more power than owners
>>> disclosed)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/07, Jake <JakeGrafton at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> it looks like my Supra has lost quite some power recently. I didnt
>>>> really notice it until I was only dead-even with several 325 HP
>>>> Porsches. I should have owned them bad.
>>>> Now, the turbos are boosting fine, the engine runs smooth, is not even
>>>> burning much oil and everything else seems to be in order. I am running
>>>> 1.1 bar with the stock cats installed right now. But I was able to beat
>>>> Porsches like that before with this setup.
>>>> So what could be the problem? I heard it could be either caused by a
>>>> dirty
>>>> fuel filter, a bad MAF or a defective cat. Is that true?
>>>> All 3 possibilities could very well be the cause. In the last few weeks 
>>>> I
>>>> have been running my car very, very often with low fuel. That could 
>>>> mean
>>>> a
>>>> dirty fuel filter, IIRC.
>>>>
>>>> I have also used a Blitz SUS air filter, which wasnt cleaning the air
>>>> very
>>>> good (there was slight dirt inside the intake pipes, so the MAF could 
>>>> be
>>>> faulty from all this dirt.
>>>>
>>>> And last but not least my cat is very old. It has seen lots of use
>>>> and high EGTs so it could also be that its defective, also because my
>>>> EGCV failed a few months ago (it got replaced a few weeks before I
>>>> noticed the loss in power).
>>>>
>>>> The question now is, how do I test the MAF for normal function? Where
>>>> is the fuel filter located and how do I see if its dirty or not?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know any other possible causes that could steal me like 30-60
>>>> HP?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Jake
>>>> 94TT
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